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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, tony@bakeyournoodle.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Silence 'ignoring return value' warnings in drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:54:43 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210121683.21644.194.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080506.144301.233784820.davem@davemloft.net>


On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 14:43 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > So I rewrote the title to "drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c: notify
> user if
> > sysfs_create_bin_file() failed".
> > 
> > And your fix looks appropriate - if sysfs_create_bin_file() fails we
> will now get
> > reports of this and we can find out what kernel bug caused this to
> happen.
> 
> The last time someone "fixed" this warning in the radeon driver,
> people lost their consoles.
> 
> Just giving a heads up...

I asked Tony to only warn. I still don't like it tho. As I (and paulus)
have explained several times in the past, but I'm not going to veto the
patch because I'm tired of that argument.
 
We have something like 99% of users of sysfs_create_file not supposed to
fail right ?

So what we are effectively doing is adding -hundreds- of printk's all
over the place (bloat bloat bloat) while instead we could have warned
inside sysfs_create_file itself, and provided a __sysfs_create_file or
sysfs_create_file_nowarn, or whatever you want to call it for the
handful of users that actually want to explicitely deal with failures.

And it's the same for a whole bunch of those must check things. We are
just adding bloat often for nothing useful. In some case, even harmful
as we prevent entire modules from initializing due to what is often just
a minor failure.

Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-07  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-24  4:34 [PATCH] Silence 'ignoring return value' warnings in drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c Tony Breeds
2008-05-06 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-06 21:43   ` David Miller
2008-05-06 21:56     ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07  4:00       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07  4:12         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07  4:15           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07  4:20             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07  4:37               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07  4:23             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07  4:26               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07  4:41                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07  4:37               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07  5:40           ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-07  5:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07  0:54     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-05-07  1:20       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07  4:33         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07  8:23           ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-07 21:43             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08  7:34               ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-08  7:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08  8:36                   ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-08 22:03                     ` Greg KH
2008-05-08 23:06                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08 23:50                       ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-09  0:02                         ` Harvey Harrison
2008-05-09  5:32                           ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-09  5:33                           ` Cornelia Huck

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