From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
tony@bakeyournoodle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Silence 'ignoring return value' warnings in drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 14:33:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210134804.21644.202.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080506182006.4b4a3968.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 18:20 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Look at the history of this. A couple of years ago we were seeing a huge
> number of mysterious crashes and warnings in and around sysfs and driver
> code and we just didn't have a clue what was causing it, because those
> crashes were happening long, long after the buggy code had done its work.
>
> So I went in there and found a tremendous amount of code in driver core,
> sysfs and in callers of both which was just ignoring error returns and
> blundering on.
>
> It was a comnplete undebuggable unmaintainable mess. And the reason why it
> was undebuggable was because the code was failing to detect errors *when
> they occurred*. So we (me, Cornelia, Greg, others) set about fixing all of
> that. And to support that effort we marked all the things which should be
> checked with __must_check.
You haven't read me properly. I'm not advocating completely ignoring
those errors. In fact, I'm all about keeping must check on things like
allocations. However, in cases like sysfs_create_file() like many
similar things where failure will -not- prevent proper operations of the
driver or subsystem, mostly only compromise the user ABI, I believe it's
a _LOT_ more efficient to put -one- printk in the function itself,
rather than all callers
> Now you come along and cherrypick a few callsites where you'd rather not
> bother checking and assert that the entire effort was wrong-headed. Well
> sorry, no, it wasn't. Sure, there's a little bit of undesirable fallout
> but the whole thing had. to. be. done.
Of course the whole effort was not wrong headed. I'm really only
complaining about all those stupid sysfs_create_file() and maybe a
handful of similar ones.
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-07 4:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-24 4:34 [PATCH] Silence 'ignoring return value' warnings in drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c Tony Breeds
2008-05-06 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-06 21:43 ` David Miller
2008-05-06 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 4:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 4:12 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 4:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 4:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 4:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 4:23 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 4:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 4:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 5:40 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-07 5:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 0:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 1:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 4:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-05-07 8:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-07 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08 7:34 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-08 7:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08 8:36 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-08 22:03 ` Greg KH
2008-05-08 23:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-08 23:50 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-09 0:02 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-05-09 5:32 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-05-09 5:33 ` Cornelia Huck
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