From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756648AbYEXPc5 (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2008 11:32:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751196AbYEXPcs (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2008 11:32:48 -0400 Received: from gateway-1237.mvista.com ([63.81.120.158]:1454 "EHLO gateway-1237.mvista.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750786AbYEXPcs (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 May 2008 11:32:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] futex: fix miss ordered wakeups From: Daniel Walker To: Thomas Gleixner Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <20080523042923.594531457@mvista.com> <20080523042923.916202203@mvista.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:32:45 -0700 Message-Id: <1211643165.18130.166.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-3.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:55 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > Normal futexes have no ordering guarantees at all. There is no > mechanism to prevent lock stealing from lower priority tasks. So why > should we care about the once a year case, where a sleepers priority > is modified ? Lock stealing? The usage of sched_setscheduler is fairly pervasive in userspace, if a task becomes SCHED_FIFO it did so via sched_setscheduler. So I don't think this is at all "once a year". Tasks shouldn't be forced to determine if a task is sleeping or not before it calls sched_setscheduler. > If you need ordering guarantees then use PI futexes. There are degree's of overhead with each step.. Someone may not need or want priority inheritance. > > +void futex_adjust_waiters(struct task_struct *p) > > +{ > > + spin_lock(&p->pi_lock); > > + spin_lock(&hb->lock); > > ... > > + spin_unlock(&hb->lock); > > + } > > + spin_unlock(&p->pi_lock); > > +} > > vs. > > > @@ -1155,6 +1191,8 @@ static int futex_wait(u32 __user *uaddr, > { > .... > hb = queue_lock(&q); > > > + spin_lock(¤t->pi_lock); > > + current->blocked_on = &blocked_on; > > + spin_unlock(¤t->pi_lock); > > There are more issues vs. pi futexes as well. The simple case of > futex_wait() vs. futex_adjust_waiters will just upset lockdep, but > there are real dealocks vs. unqueue_me_pi waiting. You mean the lock ordering would cause the deadlock vs. unqueue_me_pi , or are you talking about something else? Daniel