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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratabletasks over migratable ones"
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:47:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213786064.16944.209.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080618103919.GH15255@elte.hu>

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:39 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> wrote:
> 
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at  3:17 PM, in message
> > <1213643862.16944.142.camel@twins>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > wrote: 
> > > On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 19:59 +0200, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
> > > 
> > >> One way or another, we have different aritifacts (and mine have likely
> > >> more) but conceptually, both "violates" POSIX if a strict round-robin
> > >> scheduling is required.
> > > 
> > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/xsh_chap02_08.html#t
> > > ag_02_08_04_01
> > > 
> > > Is quite strict on what FIFO should do, and I know of two points where
> > > we deviate and should work to match.
> > 
> > Thanks for the link, Peter.  When you read that, its pretty clear that 
> > this whole concept violates the standard.  Its probably best to just 
> > revert the patch and be done with it.
> 
> no, there's no spec violation here - the spec is silent on SMP issues.
> 
> the spec should not be read to force a global runqueue for RT tasks. 
> That would be silly beyond imagination.

Sadly, some people do read it like that.

> so ... lets apply Dmitry's nice simplification, hm?

As long as it doesn't wreck the per RQ queue model and only affects the
SMP interaction that would be acceptable I guess.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-18 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10 22:58 [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratable tasks over migratable ones" Dmitry Adamushko
2008-06-11  8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-11 10:05   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-06-13 13:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-16 14:26     ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-16 17:59       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-06-16 18:44         ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-16 19:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-16 19:54           ` [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratabletasks " Gregory Haskins
2008-06-18 10:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-18 10:47               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-06-18 11:52               ` [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritizenon-migratabletasks " Gregory Haskins
2008-06-18 11:58               ` [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratabletasks " Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-01 10:46           ` [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratable tasks " Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-15 12:48             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-18 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found] <48524EDA0200005A00038BA4@sinclair.provo.novell.com>
2008-06-13 14:41 ` [sched-devel, patch-rfc] rework of "prioritize non-migratabletasks " Gregory Haskins

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