From: Ben Collins <ben.collins@canonical.com>
To: hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@arcor.de>
Cc: Hartmut Hackmann <hartmut.hackmann@t-online.de>,
v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
video4linux-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] saa7134 duplicate device in module, but different device_data?
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:06:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214525206.7150.118.camel@cunning> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1214524580.4480.32.camel@pc10.localdom.local>
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 01:56 +0200, hermann pitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 26.06.2008, 13:24 -0400 schrieb Ben Collins:
> > In the saa7134 module, there are these two entries in
> > MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE():
> >
> >
> > },{
> > .vendor = PCI_VENDOR_ID_PHILIPS,
> > .device = PCI_DEVICE_ID_PHILIPS_SAA7133,
> > .subvendor = 0x185b,
> > .subdevice = 0xc100,
> > .driver_data = SAA7134_BOARD_VIDEOMATE_TV,
> > },{
> > .vendor = PCI_VENDOR_ID_PHILIPS,
> > .device = PCI_DEVICE_ID_PHILIPS_SAA7133,
> > .subvendor = 0x185b,
> > .subdevice = 0xc100,
> > .driver_data = SAA7134_BOARD_VIDEOMATE_TV_GOLD_PLUS,
> > },{
> >
> > Both will exactly match, and I assume only the first one will ever be
> > used, hence the second is just a wasted dupe. At least, I would assume
> > if not for the differing driver_data. Anyway to clear up this ambiguity?
> >
>
> there are even more devices with the same PCI device and subsystem ID
> from that vendor and the problem goes also over saa7133 and saa7135
> devices, for which we have no means to detect them as different, but the
> saa7133 does only NTSC-M system TV sound decoding and saa7135 and the
> even later saa7131e global analog TV sound.
>
> For the early saa7133 SAA7134_BOARD_VIDEOMATE_TV we don't have eeprom
> readout data and the contributor doesn't have the card anymore.
> A request for helping out with such on the list had no result so far.
>
> As of now, we can't try to separate them by eeprom differences, which
> would be the best attempt and is done for some other Compro products
> with similar flaws already.
>
> Before that likely possible eeprom detection ever happens, we have two
> options left to make you feel better.
>
> Kick both out of the auto detection and the users will get a list of
> supported devices printed out, from which they have to choose.
>
> Leave the oldest one in and print some warnings that they have to look
> it up for their newer cards. Naming is quite consistent, except some
> early Gold Plus II variants seen first in New Zealand coming with Gold
> Plus only stickers. They also come with different tuners, latest have a
> separate silicon radio tuner and all such usual ...
>
> Patches are always welcome.
>
> Internally it was only a reminder for missing eeprom data to be
> investigated.
Well I was thinking that mainly, this was just a table for loading and
binding the driver with a device. In that case, only one entry is
needed. The probing would have to decide which device it is.
I'm not up for suggesting a fix, because I don't know enough about the
background. This email is just a friendly reminder that there exists
ambiguity, and at least for one of these devices, the driver isn't going
to detect it properly anyway :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-27 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-26 17:24 saa7134 duplicate device in module, but different device_data? Ben Collins
2008-06-26 23:56 ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " hermann pitton
2008-06-27 0:06 ` Ben Collins [this message]
2008-06-27 0:59 ` hermann pitton
2008-06-27 1:58 ` hermann pitton
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