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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@drzeus.cx>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Jean Tourrilhes <jt@hpl.hp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:22:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1216902124.7257.325.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080724051113.fa14f7ec.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 05:11 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:57:11 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:38 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 11:58 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> > > > From commit 22bb1be4d27...:
> > > > 
> > > > "The /sys/class/net/*/wireless/ direcory is, as far as I know, not used
> > > > by anyone."
> > > > 
> > > > Can't have been much of an investigation as HAL uses these to determine
> > > > if a card is a wireless one. Without this option, you cannot get
> > > > wireless support in NetworkManager, stranding most laptops.
> > > 
> > > Bzzzzt. You suck. Go check again. Hint: try hal's git tree.
> 
> err,
> 
> a) don't be rude
> 
> b) what's in various git trees is unuseful for making decisions
>    about production kernel features.
> 
> otoh the patch seems reasonable.

> So if you've enabled CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT_SYSFS (and it correctly has
> default y) then things should continue to work OK.  And the deprecation
> date of 2010 sounds reasonable.  In fact generous, for us...
> 
> So where's the problem?

Your two previous points, a and b.

That help text should really have mentioned current software, not future
software. And the tone of the reply.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-24 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24  9:58 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM) Pierre Ossman
2008-07-24 11:38 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-24 11:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-24 12:08     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-24 12:11     ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-24 12:22       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-07-24 12:33       ` Alistair John Strachan
2008-07-24 12:42   ` [RFC: 2.6 patch] clarify the WIRELESS_EXT_SYSFS help text Adrian Bunk
2008-07-24 12:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-24 20:21     ` Johannes Berg
     [not found] <fa.M1pe2GT5+zpRaz/wfP7Zjo6SOMU@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.oiNbP36FW/6wru8zoq8SWBE4P+Y@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.iZfkeomZo5PN4BBKKgjtHjkkGnw@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.cRAFIbCK4bQBxVGv6jJ9s6e4C4M@ifi.uio.no>
2008-07-24 20:13       ` 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM) Robert Hancock
2008-07-24 21:37         ` Alessandro Suardi

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