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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Josh Triplett <josht@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com, schamp@sgi.com,
	niv@us.ibm.com, dvhltc@us.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] scalable classic RCU implementation
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:26:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1219678003.8515.75.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080825151645.GB6745@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 08:16 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:34:56PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 16:29 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > 
> > > > @@ -26,8 +27,10 @@
> > > >   * http://lse.sourceforge.net/locking/rclock_OLS.2001.05.01c.sc.pdf (OLS2001)
> > > >   *
> > > >   * For detailed explanation of Read-Copy Update mechanism see -
> > > > - * 		Documentation/RCU
> > > > - *
> > > > + * 	Documentation/RCU
> > > > + * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/262464/ (What is RCU, Fundamentally?)
> > > > + * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/263130/ (What is RCU's Usage?)
> > > > + * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/264090/ (What is RCU's API? + references)
> > > >   */
> > > 
> > > Why put these references here rather than in Documentation/RCU?  It
> > > seems easier to keep documentation up to date in one place.  If you
> > > think these represent a good "getting started" set of documents, how
> > > about a Documentation/RCU/ReadTheseFirst with links to them, or how
> > > about linking to them from whatisRCU.txt?
> > 
> > I actually like in code comments and 'documentation' more than
> > Documentation/ stuff. Mostly because Documentation/ is:
> >  - far away from the code
> >  - therefore, more easily bitrotted
> >  - and easily forgotten
> 
> I know!!!
> 
> #ifdef JOSH_TRIPLETT
>  * 	Documentation/RCU
>  * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/262464/ (What is RCU, Fundamentally?)
>  * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/263130/ (What is RCU's Usage?)
>  * 	http://lwn.net/Articles/264090/ (What is RCU's API? + references)
> #elif PETER_ZIJLSTRA
>  * 	Documentation/RCU
> #endif
> 
> (Sorry, couldn't resist!!!)

But but but, you got the cases the wrong way around.. ;-)

> Seriously, I know where all the documentation is, as I wrote most of it.
> These comments are for you guys.  So, any thoughts on how I should
> resolve this?  My default is, as always, a coin flip.  ;-)

I guess we could do the 'this is how the concept works and can be used
like so and so' documentation in Documentation/

And the stuff that says 'this code does like so and so, because blah'
should stay near the code.

And in any case of doubt - stay near the code :-)

I always view Documentation/ as end user stuff (be that a kernel
programmer that needs to learn a new API, or userland folks or people
wanting to know what a certain feature is about).


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-25 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 23:43 [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22  4:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-22 13:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 17:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 18:16       ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23 16:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-24  2:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-22 23:29 ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-23  1:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 22:02     ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-26 16:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27  0:38         ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 18:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-27 20:23             ` Josh Triplett
2008-08-27 20:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 10:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-25 15:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-08-27 18:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24  8:08 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 16:32   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-24 18:25     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-24 21:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-25  0:07 ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v2 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  0:49   ` [PATCH, RFC, tip/core/rcu] v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 14:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 15:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 19:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02 13:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-02 13:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 14:55               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30  9:58     ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-08-30 13:32       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-30 14:34         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 10:58           ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 17:45               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 17:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-31 18:18                   ` Manfred Spraul
2008-08-31 19:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-30 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-01  9:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02  1:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-02  6:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-05 15:29     ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 19:33       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-05 23:04         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-05 23:52           ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-06  4:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-06 16:37       ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 17:25         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-07 10:18       ` [RFC, PATCH] Add a CPU_STARTING notifier (was: Re: [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation) Manfred Spraul
2008-09-07 11:07         ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-07 19:46         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-15 16:02       ` [PATCH, RFC] v4 scalable classic RCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 16:52         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 17:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-16 17:48             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-16 18:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-21 11:09               ` Manfred Spraul
2008-09-21 21:14                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-23 23:53         ` [PATCH, RFC] v6 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-09-25  7:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-25 14:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-10 16:09           ` [PATCH, RFC] v7 " Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-12 15:52             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-12 22:46               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-13 18:03                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15  1:11                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-15  8:13                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-15 15:26                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 18:41                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-22 21:02                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-22 21:24                             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 16:45                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-27 19:48                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-27 23:52                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28  5:30                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 15:17                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-28 17:21                                         ` Manfred Spraul
2008-10-28 17:35                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17  8:34             ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:35               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2008-10-17 15:46                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-10-17 15:43               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-12-08 18:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-02 20:10             ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-03 20:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-05 19:48                 ` Manfred Spraul
2008-11-05 21:27                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-15 23:20             ` [PATCH, RFC] v8 " Paul E. McKenney

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