From: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
tytso@mit.edu, sandeen@redhat.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V3 01/11] percpu_counters: make fbc->count read atomic on 32 bit architecture
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:59:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1219964386.6384.63.camel@mingming-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080827210925.b4846037.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
在 2008-08-27三的 21:09 -0700,Andrew Morton写道:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:22:00 +0530 "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 02:22:50PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:01:52 +0200
> > > Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > +static inline s64 percpu_counter_read(struct percpu_counter *fbc)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > + return fbc_count(fbc);
> > > > > > +}
> > > > >
> > > > > This change means that a percpu_counter_read() from interrupt context
> > > > > on a 32-bit machine is now deadlockable, whereas it previously was not
> > > > > deadlockable on either 32-bit or 64-bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > This flows on to the lib/proportions.c, which uses
> > > > > percpu_counter_read() and also does spin_lock_irqsave() internally,
> > > > > indicating that it is (or was) designed to be used in IRQ contexts.
> > > >
> > > > percpu_counter() never was irq safe, which is why the proportion stuff
> > > > does all the irq disabling bits by hand.
> > >
> > > percpu_counter_read() was irq-safe. That changes here. Needs careful
> > > review, changelogging and, preferably, runtime checks. But perhaps
> > > they should be inside some CONFIG_thing which won't normally be done in
> > > production.
> > >
> > > otoh, percpu_counter_read() is in fact a rare operation, so a bit of
> > > overhead probably won't matter.
> > >
> > > (write-often, read-rarely is the whole point. This patch's changelog's
> > > assertion that "Since fbc->count is read more frequently and updated
> > > rarely" is probably wrong. Most percpu_counters will have their
> > > fbc->count modified far more frequently than having it read from).
> >
> > we may actually be doing percpu_counter_add. But that doesn't update
> > fbc->count. Only if the local percpu values cross FBC_BATCH we update
> > fbc->count. If we are modifying fbc->count more frequently than
> > reading fbc->count then i guess we would be contenting of fbc->lock more.
> >
> >
>
> Yep. The frequency of modification of fbc->count is of the order of a
> tenth or a hundredth of the frequency of
> precpu_counter_<modification>() calls.
>
> But in many cases the frequency of percpu_counter_read() calls is far
> far less than this. For example, the percpu_counter_read() may only
> happen when userspace polls a /proc file.
>
>
The global counter is is much more frequently accessed with delalloc.:(
With delayed allocation, we have to do read the free blocks counter at
each write_begin(), to make sure there is enough free blocks to do
block reservation to prevent lately writepages returns ENOSPC.
Mingming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-28 23:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-27 15:28 [PATCH -V3 01/11] percpu_counters: make fbc->count read atomic on 32 bit architecture Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-08-27 19:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-27 21:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-27 21:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-28 3:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-08-28 4:09 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-28 22:59 ` Mingming Cao [this message]
2008-08-28 7:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-28 3:48 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-08-28 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-28 14:19 ` Nick Piggin
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