From: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
"avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Zach Amsden <zach@vmware.com>, Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
"Jun.Nakajima@Intel.Com" <Jun.Nakajima@Intel.Com>
Subject: Re: Use CPUID to communicate with the hypervisor.
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:30:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222475403.29886.57.camel@alok-dev1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48DD799C.3070706@zytor.com>
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the comments, please find my replies below.
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 17:09 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Alok Kataria wrote:
> >
> > Leaf 0x40000000, Hypervisor CPUID information
> > # EAX: The maximum input value for hypervisor CPUID info (0x40000010).
> > # EBX, ECX, EDX: Hypervisor vendor ID signature. E.g. "VMwareVMware"
> >
>
> This is great, obviously... although we'll have to deal with legacy
> methods for a while if not indefinitely (just as we have to for
> pre-CPUID processors).
Ok, do you think we should keep those (legacy) interfaces separate so
that they can be phased out whenever the time is right.
>
> >
> > +static void __init detect_hypervisor(void)
> > +{
> > + if (cpu_has_hypervisor) {
> > + unsigned int eax, ebx, ecx, edx;
> > + char hyper_vendor_id[13];
> > +
> > + cpuid(HYPERVISOR_INFO_LEAF, &eax, &ebx, &ecx, &edx);
> > + memcpy(hyper_vendor_id + 0, &ebx, 4);
> > + memcpy(hyper_vendor_id + 4, &ecx, 4);
> > + memcpy(hyper_vendor_id + 8, &edx, 4);
> > + hyper_vendor_id[12] = '\0';
> > + printk(KERN_INFO "Hypervisor vendor id %s\n", hyper_vendor_id);
> > + }
> > +}
> > +
>
> This should be broken out into a separate file in cpu/*, because we
> *will* need to detect hypervisors by other means.
Ok, i will do that.
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> > @@ -345,16 +345,38 @@ failed:
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> > +unsigned long hypervisor_tsc_freq(void)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long tsc_khz;
> > + unsigned int max_cpuid_leaf;
> > +
> > + if (cpu_has_hypervisor) {
> > + max_cpuid_leaf = cpuid_eax(HYPERVISOR_INFO_LEAF);
> > + if (max_cpuid_leaf >= HYPERVISOR_TIMING_LEAF) {
> > + tsc_khz = cpuid_eax(HYPERVISOR_TIMING_LEAF);
> > + printk(KERN_INFO
> > + "TSC frequency read from hypervisor\n");
> > + return tsc_khz;
> > + }
> > + }
> > + return 0;
> > +}
> > +
>
> I would call this "vmware_tsc_freq()" because it is a VMWare-defined
> interface... you can't just poke at 0x40000010 and assume it is using
> the VMWare definition.
I would like to see this as a generic hypervisor way to get frequency
rather than a VMware specific thingy.
>
> In order for *that* to be safe, you'd have to have well-defined ranges
> for different virtualization vendors where each of them can define their
> own stuff.
My motivation for doing this is to have a standard across all the
hypervisor's. If all the different hypervisor guys can come to some
sought of consensus on the various hypervisor leafs that would help keep
this simple and a lot more maintainable.
>
> > diff --git a/include/asm-x86/processor.h b/include/asm-x86/processor.h
> > index ee7cbb3..70ca49b 100644
> > --- a/include/asm-x86/processor.h
> > +++ b/include/asm-x86/processor.h
> > @@ -124,6 +124,27 @@ struct cpuinfo_x86 {
> > #define X86_VENDOR_UNKNOWN 0xff
> >
> > /*
> > + * Intel & AMD have reserved the cpuid levels 0x40000000 - 0x400000FF for
> > + * software use. Hypervisors can use these levels to provide an interface
> > + * to pass information from the hypervisor to the guest. This is similar
> > + * to how we extract information about a physical cpu by using cpuid.
> > + */
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * This CPUID leaf returns the information about the hypervisor.
> > + * EAX : maximum input value for CPUID supported by the hypervisor.
> > + * EBX, ECX, EDX : Hypervisor vendor ID signature. E.g. VMwareVMware.
> > + */
> > +#define HYPERVISOR_INFO_LEAF 0x40000000
> > +/*
> > + * This leaf gets timing information from the hypervisor.
> > + * EAX: (Virtual) TSC frequency in kHz.
> > + * EBX: (Virtual) Bus (local apic timer) frequency in kHz.
> > + * ECX, EDX: RESERVED
> > + */
> > +#define HYPERVISOR_TIMING_LEAF 0x40000010
> > +
>
> <asm/processor.h> is the wrong place for this, and these constants
> should have CPUID_ in them to tell what they fundamentally are.
>
> My preference would be for <asm/cpuid.h>, but otherwise
> <asm/cpufeature.h> wouldn't be entirely wrong.
Ok makes sense, will do that.
Thanks,
Alok
>
> -hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-27 0:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-26 23:46 Use CPUID to communicate with the hypervisor Alok Kataria
2008-09-27 0:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 0:30 ` Alok Kataria [this message]
2008-09-27 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 0:59 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-27 1:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 4:52 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-29 20:56 ` Karel Zak
2008-09-27 1:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-27 1:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 3:11 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-27 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 5:37 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-28 5:01 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-29 9:28 ` Tim Deegan
2008-09-29 9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 6:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-09-29 7:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 9:08 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-09-29 9:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-09-29 15:32 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 8:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-29 17:55 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-29 17:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 18:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-29 19:38 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-29 20:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 20:55 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-29 21:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 21:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-29 21:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 23:20 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-09-30 0:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 0:12 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-30 0:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 0:56 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 0:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 1:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 2:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 3:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 3:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 22:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-30 0:33 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-30 8:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-30 16:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-10-02 11:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-01 4:35 ` [Hypervisors] TSC frequency change Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 9:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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