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From: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, malware-list@lists.printk.net,
	arjan@infradead.org, bunk@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
	tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	hch@infradead.org, andi@firstfloor.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
	peterz@infradead.org, Jonathan.Press@ca.com, riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] 0/11 fanotify: fscking all notifiction and file access system (intended for antivirus scanning and file indexers)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:04:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222524294.2872.252.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0809262259290.4229@asgard.lang.hm>

On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 23:05 -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Eric Paris wrote:
> 
> > fanotify has 7 event types and only sends events for S_ISREG() files.
> > The event types are OPEN, READ, WRITE, CLOSE_WRITE, CLOSE_NOWRITE,
> > OPEN_ACCESS, and READ_ACCESS.  Events OPEN_ACCESS and READ_ACCESS
> > require that the listener return some sort of allow/deny/more_time
> > response as the original process blocks until it gets an event (or times
> > out.)  listeners may register a group which will get notifications about
> > any combination of these events.  Antivirus scanners will likely want
> > OPEN_ACCESS and READ_ACCESS while file indexers would likely use the
> > non-ACCESS form of these events.
> 
> sending a message out for every READ/WRITE seems like it will generate a 
> LOT of messages, and very few will be ones that anyone cares about.
> 
> one of the nice things about the TALPA approach was that there was an 
> ability to notify only on a change of state (i.e. when a file that had 
> been scanned was changed)
> 
> this could do a similar thing, but I think it would be a much more 
> expensive process to do it all in userspace.

See the fastpath patch and explaination.  Doesn't help for writes...


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-27 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-26 21:07 [RFC] 0/11 fanotify: fscking all notifiction and file access system (intended for antivirus scanning and file indexers) Eric Paris
2008-09-26 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2008-09-26 21:48   ` [malware-list] " Greg KH
2008-09-26 22:03   ` Eric Paris
2008-10-02 19:24   ` Eric Paris
2008-10-02 20:48     ` Alan Cox
2008-09-27  6:05 ` david
2008-09-27 11:20   ` Alan Cox
2008-10-06 15:09     ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-27 14:04   ` Eric Paris [this message]
     [not found]     ` <5CB739747AC639489F3E8210950C3E555C39EE@geousmail3.GEO.CORP.HCL.IN>
2008-10-07 17:36       ` [malware-list] [RFC] 0/11 fanotify: fscking all notifiction andfile access system (intended for antivirus scanning and fileindexers) Eric Paris

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