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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	David Wilder <dwilder@us.ibm.com>,
	hch@lst.de, Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 Golden] Unified trace buffer
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:49:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1222796952.24384.25.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0809301339140.6224@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 13:41 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > 
> > > Actually, looking at the code, there is no reason I need to keep this in 
> > > the frame buffer itself. I've also encapsulated the accesses to the 
> > > incrementing of the pointers so it would be trivial to try other 
> > > approaches.
> > > 
> > > The problem we had with the big array struct is that we can want large 
> > > buffers and to do that with pointers means we would need to either come up 
> > > with a large allocator or use vmap.
> > > 
> > > But I just realized that I could also just make a link list of page 
> > > pointers and do the exact same thing without having to worry about page 
> > > frames.  Again, the way I coded this up, it is quite trivial to replace 
> > > the handling of the pages with other schemes.
> > 
> > The list_head in the page frame should be available regardless of
> > splice() stuffs.
> 
> Regardless, there's more info we want to store for each page than the list 
> head.  Especially when we start converting this to lockless. I rather get 
> out of the overlaying of the page frames, its nice to save the space, but 
> really scares the hell out of me. I can just imagine this blowing up if we 
> redo the paging, and I dislike this transparent coupling between the 
> tracer buffer and the pages.

The problem with storing the page link information inside the page is
that it doesnt transfer to another address space, so if you do indeed
mmap these pages, then the link information is bogus.

Of course, in such a situation you could ignore these headers, but
somehow that doesn't sound too apealing.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-30 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-25 18:51 [RFC PATCH 0/2 v3] Unified trace buffer Steven Rostedt
2008-09-25 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2 " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26  1:02   ` [RFC PATCH v4] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26  1:52     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-26  2:11       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26  2:47         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-26  3:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-26  7:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 10:45             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 11:00               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 16:57                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-26 17:14                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 10:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 16:04             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-26 17:11       ` [PATCH v5] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 17:31         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-26 17:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-26 17:46             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27 17:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-27 17:18                 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 18:05         ` [PATCH v6] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 18:30           ` Richard Holden
2008-09-26 18:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 18:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 19:46             ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-26 19:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 21:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 19:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 22:28             ` Mike Travis
2008-09-26 23:56               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  0:05                 ` Mike Travis
2008-09-27  0:18                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  0:46                     ` Mike Travis
2008-09-27  0:52                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 19:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 23:16             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-26 20:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-26 21:14             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-26 21:26               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 21:13           ` [PATCH v7] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  2:02             ` [PATCH v8] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  6:06               ` [PATCH v9] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27 18:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-27 19:24                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27 19:41                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-27 19:54                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27 20:00                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-29 15:05                           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27 20:07                         ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-27 20:34                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-29 16:10                 ` [PATCH v10 Golden] " Steven Rostedt
2008-09-29 16:11                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-29 23:35                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-30  0:01                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30  0:03                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-30  0:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30  3:46                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-30  4:00                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30 15:20                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-09-30 15:54                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-30 16:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-30 16:48                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30 17:00                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-30 17:41                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30 17:49                                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-09-30 17:56                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30 18:02                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-30 17:01                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-01 15:14                                         ` [PATCH] ring_buffer: allocate buffer page pointer Steven Rostedt
2008-10-01 17:36                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-01 17:49                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-01 18:21                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-02  8:50                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02  8:51                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02  9:05                                               ` [PATCH] ring-buffer: fix build error Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02  9:38                                                 ` [boot crash] " Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02 13:16                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-02 13:17                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-02 15:50                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02 18:27                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-02 18:55                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02 23:18                                                   ` [PATCH] ring_buffer: map to cpu not page Steven Rostedt
2008-10-02 23:36                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-03  4:56                                                     ` [PATCH] x86 Topology cpu_to_node parameter check Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03  5:20                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-03 15:56                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 16:26                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-03 17:21                                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 17:54                                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-10-03 18:53                                                                 ` [PATCH] topology.h define mess fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 20:14                                                                   ` Luck, Tony
2008-10-03 22:47                                                                     ` [PATCH] topology.h define mess fix v2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03  7:27                                                     ` [PATCH] ring_buffer: map to cpu not page Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02  9:06                                             ` [PATCH] ring_buffer: allocate buffer page pointer Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  9:41                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-02 13:06                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-26 22:31           ` [PATCH v6] Unified trace buffer Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-09-26 23:58             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  0:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-27  0:23                 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-27  0:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-25 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2 v3] ftrace: make work with new ring buffer Steven Rostedt

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