From: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set.
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:11:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224713518.13953.46.camel@alok-dev1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081022221316.GW12825@one.firstfloor.org>
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 15:13 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Adding it with vmware detection code is not useful.
> >
> > The VMware detection code is something that's needed anyways for other
> > purposes(getting tsc_freq right now). So the code which force sets this
> > TSC_CONSTANT bit is trivial.
>
> It would be better to eliminate that too. Why do you need it anyways?
>
> > Apart from that, as i said yesterday, this should be viewed as a special
> > case for VMware products which don't already set this bit. Changing the
> > behavior for already existing products is not feasible.
>
> On old hypervisors Linux already runs fine without TSC, doesn't it?
Not really, there are problems with the pm timer too, the one about
missing the counter wrap and time dropping in chunks of 4 seconds.
Tried to explain it over here, http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/22/525
So TSC is the ideal clocksource from performance and correctness point
of view for VMware.
Thanks,
Alok
>
> -Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-22 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 1:35 [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 5:55 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-21 19:11 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:29 ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-21 9:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 17:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 18:04 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:10 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:47 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 21:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:23 ` [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 19:30 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 20:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:04 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:58 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:00 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:11 ` Alok Kataria [this message]
2008-10-22 22:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 2:21 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 8:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 23:39 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 23:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 0:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 7:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 15:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:50 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 20:18 ` Dan Hecht
2008-10-24 1:12 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-22 22:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 22:17 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 9:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Pavel Machek
2008-10-21 16:48 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:36 ` Pavel Machek
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