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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, efault@gmx.de,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] sched: non-zero lag renice
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:28:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1224880083.7753.6.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49020A2A.5070809@nortel.com>

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:47 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>  > Then renicing, esp when lowering nice value (getting heavier), its possible
>  > to get into a starvation scenario. If you got too much runtime as a very
>  > light task, you get shot way far too the right, which means you'll have to
>  > wait for a long time in order to run again.
>  >
>  > If during that wait you get reniced down, fairness would suggest you get run
>  > earlier, because you deserve more time.
>  >
>  > This can be solved by scaling the vruntime so that we keep the real-time
>  > lag invariant.
> 
> If we've already been shot way out to the right, presumably that would give us 
> a large real-time lag.  If we renice to a lower nice level, wouldn't we want 
> to reduce the real-time lag rather than make it constant?

Ah, see but a 1ms real-time lag might be gigantic on weight=15, but
nearly nothing on weight=88761.

1e6 * 1024/15 is massively larger than 1e6 * 1024/88761.

1000000*1024/15 = 68266666
1000000*1024/88761 = 11536





  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-24 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-24  9:06 [PATCH 0/8] scheduler patches Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched: fix a find_busiest_group buglet Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: more accurate min_vruntime accounting Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched: weaken sync hint Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 4/8] sched: re-instate vruntime based wakeup preemption Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: virtual time buddy preemption Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 6/8] sched: avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-29 15:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-01 18:13     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 7/8] sched: non-zero lag renice Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 17:47   ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-24 20:28     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-10-24 21:13       ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-24  9:06 ` [PATCH 8/8] use avg_vruntime for task placement Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 10:26 ` [PATCH 0/8] scheduler patches Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 10:29   ` Peter Zijlstra

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