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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: Dimitri Sivanich <sivanich@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: RT sched: cpupri_vec lock contention with def_root_domain and no load balance
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:36:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225809393.7803.1669.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49105D84.8070108@novell.com>

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:34 -0500, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Gregory Haskins wrote:
> > Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >   
> >> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 15:07 -0600, Dimitri Sivanich wrote:
> >>   
> >>     
> >>> When load balancing gets switched off for a set of cpus via the
> >>> sched_load_balance flag in cpusets, those cpus wind up with the
> >>> globally defined def_root_domain attached.  The def_root_domain is
> >>> attached when partition_sched_domains calls detach_destroy_domains().
> >>> A new root_domain is never allocated or attached as a sched domain
> >>> will never be attached by __build_sched_domains() for the non-load
> >>> balanced processors.
> >>>
> >>> The problem with this scenario is that on systems with a large number
> >>> of processors with load balancing switched off, we start to see the
> >>> cpupri->pri_to_cpu->lock in the def_root_domain becoming contended.
> >>> This starts to become much more apparent above 8 waking RT threads
> >>> (with each RT thread running on it's own cpu, blocking and waking up
> >>> continuously).
> >>>
> >>> I'm wondering if this is, in fact, the way things were meant to work,
> >>> or should we have a root domain allocated for each cpu that is not to
> >>> be part of a sched domain?  Note the the def_root_domain spans all of
> >>> the non-load-balanced cpus in this case.  Having it attached to cpus
> >>> that should not be load balancing doesn't quite make sense to me.
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >> It shouldn't be like that, each load-balance domain (in your case a
> >> single cpu) should get its own root domain. Gregory?
> >>   
> >>     
> >
> > Yeah, this sounds broken.  I know that the root-domain code was being
> > developed coincident to some upheaval with the cpuset code, so I suspect
> > something may have been broken from the original intent.  I will take a
> > look.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> >   
> 
> After thinking about it some more, I am not quite sure what to do here. 
> The root-domain code was really designed to be 1:1 with a disjoint
> cpuset.  In this case, it sounds like all the non-balanced cpus are
> still in one default cpuset.  In that case, the code is correct to place
> all those cores in the singleton def_root_domain.  The question really
> is: How do we support the sched_load_balance flag better?
> 
> I suppose we could go through the scheduler code and have it check that
> flag before consulting the root-domain.  Another alternative is to have
> the sched_load_balance=false flag create a disjoint cpuset.  Any thoughts?

Hmm, but you cannot disable load-balance on a cpu without placing it in
an cpuset first, right?

Or are folks disabling load-balance bottom-up, instead of top-down?

In that case, I think we should dis-allow that.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-03 21:07 RT sched: cpupri_vec lock contention with def_root_domain and no load balance Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-03 22:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-04  1:29   ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-04  3:53   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-04 14:34     ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-04 14:36       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-11-04 14:40         ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-04 14:59           ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-19 19:49             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-19 19:55               ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-19 20:17                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-19 20:21                   ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-19 20:25               ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-19 20:33                 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-19 21:30                   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-19 21:47                     ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-19 22:25                   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-20  2:12                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-21  1:57                   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-11-21 20:04                     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-21 21:18                       ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-22  7:03                         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-22  8:18                           ` Li Zefan
2008-11-24 15:11                             ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-24 21:47                               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-24 21:46                             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-11-04 14:45         ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-11-06  9:13         ` Nish Aravamudan
2008-11-06 13:32           ` Dimitri Sivanich

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