From: "Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@fastmail.fm>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
lguest@ozlabs.org, jeremy@xensource.com,
"Steven Rostedt" <srostedt@redhat.com>,
"Cyrill Gorcunov" <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
"Mike Travis" <travis@sgi.com>,
"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC/RFB] x86_64, i386: interrupt dispatch changes
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:23:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225815789.30706.1282936457@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081104140030.GA16178@elte.hu>
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:00:30 +0100, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu> said:
>
> * Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:42:42 +0100, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu> said:
> > >
> > > * Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@mailshack.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > An x86 processor handles an interrupt (from an external source,
> > > > software generated or due to an exception), depending on the
> > > > contents if the IDT. Normally the IDT contains mostly interrupt
> > > > gates. Linux points each interrupt gate to a unique function. Some
> > > > are specific to some task (handling traps, IPI's, ...), the others
> > > > are stubs that push the interrupt number to the stack and jump to
> > > > 'common_interrupt'.
> > > >
> > > > This patch removes the need for the stubs.
> > >
> > > hm, the cost would be this new code:
> > >
> > > > +.p2align
> > > > +ENTRY(maininterrupt)
> > > > RING0_INT_FRAME
> > > > -vector=0
> > > > -.rept NR_VECTORS
> > > > - ALIGN
> > > > - .if vector
> > > > - CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET -4
> > > > - .endif
> > > > -1: pushl $~(vector)
> > > > - CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET 4
> > > > + push %eax
> > > > + push %eax
> > > > + mov %cs,%eax
> > > > + shr $3,%eax
> > > > + and $0xff,%eax
> > > > + not %eax
> > > > + mov %eax,4(%esp)
> > > > + pop %eax
> > > > jmp common_interrupt
> > >
> > > .. which we were able to avoid before. A couple of segment register
> > > accesses, shifts, etc to calculate the vector - each of which can be
> > > quite costly (especially the segment register access - this is a
> > > relatively rare instruction pattern).
> >
> > The way it is written now is just so I did not have to change
> > common_interrupt (to keep changes small). All those accesses so
> > close together will cost some cycles, but much can be avoided if it
> > is integrated. If the precise content of the stack can be changed,
> > this could be as simple as "push %cs". Even that can be delayed,
> > because the content of the cs register will still be there.
> >
> > Note that the specialized interrupts (including page fault, etc.)
> > will not go via this path. As far as I understand now, it is only
> > the interrupts from external devices that normally go via
> > common_interrupt. There I think the overhead is really tiny compared
> > to the rest of the handling of the interrupt.
>
> no complaints from me about the cleanup/simplification effect - that's
> really great. To make the reasoning all iron-clad please post timings
> of "push %cs" costs measured via RDTSC or so - can be done in
> user-space as well. (you can simulate the entry+exit sequence in
> user-space as well and prove that the overhead is near zero.) In the
> end it could all even be faster (perhaps), besides smaller.
I did some timings using the little program below (32-bit only), doing
1024 times the same sequence. TEST1 is just pushing a constant onto
the stack; TEST2 is pushing the cs register; TEST3 is the sequence
from the patch to extract the vector number from the cs register.
Opteron (cycles): 1024 / 1157 / 3527
Xeon E5345 (cycles): 1092 / 1085 / 6622
Athlon XP (cycles): 1028 / 1166 / 5192
I'ld say that the cost of the push %cs itself is negligible.
> ( another advantage is that the 6 bytes GDT descriptor is more
> compressed and hence uses up less L1/L2 cache footprint than the
> larger (~7 byte) trampolines we have at the moment. )
A GDT descriptor has to be read and processed anyhow... It might
just not be in cache. But at least it is aligned. The trampolines
are 7 bytes (irq#<128) or 10 bytes (irq#>127) on i386 and x86_64.
And one is data, and the other is code, which might also cause
different behaviour. It's just a bit too complicated to decide by
just reasoning about it ;).
> plus it's possible to observe the typical cost of irqs from user-space
> as well: run a task on a single CPU and save away all the RDTSC deltas
> that are larger than ~10 cycles - these will be the IRQ entry costs.
> Print out these deltas after 60 seconds of runtime (or something like
> that), and look at the histogram.
I'll see if I can do that. Maybe in a few days...
Thanks,
Alexander
> Ingo
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#define TEST 3
int main(void)
{
int i, ticks[1024];
for (i=0; i<(sizeof(ticks)/sizeof(*ticks)); i++) {
asm volatile (
"push %%edx\n\t"
"push %%ecx\n\t"
"rdtsc\n\t"
"mov %%eax,%%ecx\n\t"
".rept 1024\n\t"
#if TEST==1
"push $-255\n\t"
#endif
#if TEST==2
"push %%cs\n\t"
#endif
#if TEST==3
"push %%eax\n\t"
"push %%eax\n\t"
"mov %%cs,%%eax\n\t"
"shr $3,%%eax\n\t"
"and $0xff,%%eax\n\t"
"not %%eax\n\t"
"mov %%eax,4(%%esp)\n\t"
"pop %%eax\n\t"
#endif
".endr\n\t"
"rdtsc\n\t"
".rept 1024\n\t"
"pop %%edx\n\t"
".endr\n\t"
"sub %%ecx,%%eax\n\t"
"pop %%ecx\n\t"
"pop %%edx"
: "=a" (ticks[i]) );
}
for (i=0; i<(sizeof(ticks)/sizeof(*ticks)); i++) {
printf("%i\n", ticks[i]);
}
}
--
Alexander van Heukelum
heukelum@fastmail.fm
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-04 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-04 12:28 [PATCH RFC/RFB] x86_64, i386: interrupt dispatch changes Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 13:29 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 16:23 ` Alexander van Heukelum [this message]
2008-11-04 16:47 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-04 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 17:13 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-04 17:29 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-06 9:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 20:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-04 20:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 20:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-04 15:07 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-04 15:47 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 16:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 16:45 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 16:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 16:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 16:58 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 17:39 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 17:05 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-04 18:06 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 18:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 18:44 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-04 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 20:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-04 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-04 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 20:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-04 20:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 21:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-05 0:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-05 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-06 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-06 9:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-06 9:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-05 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-14 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-14 1:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-14 2:12 ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-04 21:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-04 21:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-04 21:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-05 17:53 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-05 18:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-05 18:14 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-05 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-05 18:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
[not found] ` <1226243805.27361.1283784629@webmail.messagingengine.com>
2008-11-10 1:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-26 21:35 ` [Lguest] " Avi Kivity
2008-11-26 21:50 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-27 10:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 10:56 ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-27 10:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-28 20:48 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-29 15:45 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-29 18:21 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-29 18:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-29 19:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-01 4:32 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-01 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-01 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 10:32 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-12-01 10:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-10 8:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-10 12:44 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-10 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-10 21:35 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-10 22:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-11 5:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-13 22:23 ` Matt Mackall
2008-11-14 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-14 2:29 ` Matt Mackall
2008-11-14 3:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-11 9:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-10 15:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-10 21:44 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-10 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-05 18:15 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
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