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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Cc: prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jan.kiszka@web.de,
	Gian Lorenzo Meocci <glmeocci@gmail.com>,
	ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mbligh@google.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [ltt-dev] trace a futex
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:01:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228492899.20520.4.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081205122822.GA25816@Krystal>

[ resend with a real email address for Thomas ]

On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 07:28 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra (peterz@infradead.org) wrote:
> > 
> > FWIW, the ftrace infrastructure has on many an occasion (even before it
> > was called ftrace and specific to -rt) helped in debugging and fixing
> > futex races.
> > 
> 
> Hrm, I'm not sure futex races is the key aspect of interest here.
> Knowing which amount of pthread mutex lock calls ends up calling the
> scheduler looks a bit more like the topic brought by this particular
> use-case. Therefore, correlating the information from the nptl with the
> kernel information would be useful.

We already have the scheduler instrucmentation, so correlating that to
known futex calls (from userspace) shouldn't be too hard. 

> Is lockdep called when a futex is taken ? 

lockdep only does kernel-internal locks - so no.

> Should we add instrumentation
> (tracepoints) to futex.c ? If yes, was there specific instrumentation
> you used with ftrace that should be added ?

Not sure we should, Thomas did the bulk of that ftrace debugging, Thomas
do you think it would be worthwhile to add some tracepoints in there?

      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-05 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8d94e9280812021142j2eb5ca72td730410e97ccd9a1@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20081202195015.GA25792@Krystal>
     [not found]   ` <8d94e9280812021215m6a63d6c2l4e64acd26274953d@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <20081202215519.GA734@Krystal>
     [not found]       ` <4935B25F.7010701@web.de>
2008-12-03  5:26         ` [ltt-dev] trace a futex Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-03 18:01           ` K.Prasad
2008-12-04  8:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-05 12:28               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-05 15:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-05 16:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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