From: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:49:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228902558.5384.19.camel@blaa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510812091016u944d6c9je6ac8470127e5115@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 19:16 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 17:41, Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 08:46 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 18:52 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> >> >> On Saturday 06 December 2008 01:37:06 Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Another example of a lack of an explicit dependency causing problems is
> >> >>> Fedora's mkinitrd having this hack:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> if echo $PWD | grep -q /virtio-pci/ ; then
> >> >>> findmodule virtio_pci
> >> >>> fi
> >> >>>
> >> >>> which basically says "if this is a virtio device, don't forget to
> >> >>> include virtio_pci in the initrd too!". Now, mkinitrd is full of hacks,
> >> >>> but this is a particularly unusual one.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Um, I don't know what this does, sorry.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have no idea how Fedora chooses what to put in an initrd; I can't think
> >> >> of a sensible way of deciding what goes in and what doesn't other than
> >> >> lists and heuristics.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Fedora's mkinitrd creates an initrd suitable to boot the machine you run
> >> > mkinitrd on, rather than creating an initrd suitable to boot any
> >> > machine.
> >> >
> >> > So, it goes "ah, / is mounted from /dev/vda, we need to include
> >> > virtio_blk and it's dependencies". It does that in a generic way that
> >> > works well for most setups:
> >> >
> >> > 1) Find the device name (e.g. vda) below /sys/block
> >> >
> >> > 2) Follow the 'device' link to e.g. /sys/devices/virtio-pci/virtio1
> >> >
> >> > 3) Find the module need for this through either 'modalias' or the
> >> > 'driver/module' symlink
> >> >
> >> > 4) Use modprobe to list any dependencies of that module
> >> >
> >> > Clearly, virtio-pci won't be pulled in by any of this so we've added a
> >> > hack to say "oh, it's a virtio device, let's include virtio_pci just in
> >> > case".
> >> >
> >> > It's not even the case that mkinitrd needs to know how to include the
> >> > the module for the bus, because in our case that's virtio.ko ... we've
> >> > pretty effectively hidden the the bus *implementation* from userspace.
> >> >
> >> > I don't think this is worth wasting too much time fixing, that's why I'm
> >> > thinking we should just make virtio_pci built-in by default with
> >> > CONFIG_KVM_GUEST.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What if we have multiple virtio transports?
> >
> > I don't think that's so much an an issue (just build in any transport
> > supported by KVM), but rather that you might build a non-pv_ops kernel
> > to run on QEMU which would benefit from using virtio drivers ...
> >
> >> Is there a way that we can
> >> expose the relationship with virtio-blk and virtio-pci in sysfs? We
> >> have a struct device for the PCI device, it's just a matter of making
> >> the link visible.
> >
> > It feels a bit like busy work to generalise this since only virtio_pci
> > can be built as a module, but here's a patch.
> >
> > The mkinitrd hack turns into:
> >
> > # Handle finding virtio bus implementations
> > if [ -L ./virtio_module ] ; then
> > findmodule $(basename $(readlink ./virtio_module))
> > else if echo $PWD | grep -q /virtio-pci/ ; then
> > findmodule virtio_pci
> > fi; fi
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark.
> >
> > [PATCH] virtio: add a 'virtio_module' sysfs symlink
>
> Doesn't the device have a "driver" link already? If yes, the driver it
> points to should have a "module" link.
The virtio bus is an abstraction that has several different backend
implementations - currently virtio-pci, lguest and kvm-s390.
So yes, the driver/module link gives us the device driver, but the
virtio_module link is to the virtio bus driver (aka implementation,
transport, backend, ...):
$> basename $(readlink virtio_module)
virtio_pci
$> basename $(readlink driver/module)
virtio_net
Cheers,
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-10 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-04 12:44 [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-04 22:46 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 9:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-12-05 13:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 14:55 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 15:25 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 15:26 ` Greg KH
2008-12-05 18:30 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:46 ` Greg KH
2008-12-08 11:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtio: add PCI device release() function Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 11:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-08 14:58 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:33 ` [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-05 17:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 18:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-07 8:30 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-07 13:36 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 0:13 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-05 15:07 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-07 8:22 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-08 13:03 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-09 16:41 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-09 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-09 18:16 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-10 9:49 ` Mark McLoughlin [this message]
2008-12-10 12:02 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-10 17:44 ` [PATCH 0/6] Clean up virtio device object handling [was Re: [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref] Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] virtio: add PCI device release() function Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio: add register_virtio_root_device() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 3/6] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 4/6] lguest: " Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm-s390: use register_virtio_root_device() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 17:45 ` [PATCH 6/6] lguest: struct device - replace bus_id with dev_name() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 9:05 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm-s390: use register_virtio_root_device() Christian Borntraeger
2008-12-11 12:49 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-11 12:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio: add register_virtio_root_device() Cornelia Huck
2008-12-11 16:16 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/4] driver core: add root_device_register() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 16:16 ` [PATCH 3/4] lguest: " Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 16:16 ` [PATCH 4/4] s390: remove s390_root_dev_*() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-11 17:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-12 9:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-12 9:35 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-12 9:45 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-12-12 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-12-12 9:45 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-12 19:07 ` Greg KH
2008-12-15 12:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] driver core: add root_device_register() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-15 12:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-15 12:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] lguest: " Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-15 12:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] s390: remove s390_root_dev_*() Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-15 22:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Rusty Russell
2008-12-11 16:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] driver core: add root_device_register() Cornelia Huck
2008-12-11 18:23 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-12 8:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-12 8:56 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-12 9:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2008-12-10 18:07 ` [PATCH 0/6] Clean up virtio device object handling [was Re: [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref] Kay Sievers
2008-12-09 22:25 ` [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref Jesse Barnes
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