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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>,
	"Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:37:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1229110673.3262.94.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4942BAB8.4050007@vlnb.net>

On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 22:25 +0300, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> > One thing that leaps immediately to mind is that you could isolate this
> > to the net layer by putting it in skb_frag_struct.  However, such a move
> > would require a proper API for this in net ...
> 
> To have net_priv analog in skb was the first idea I was tried. But I 
> quickly gave up, because it would required that all the pages in each 
> skb_frag_struct be from the same originator, i.e. with the same 
> net_priv. It is unpractical to change all the operations with skb's to 
> forbid merging them, if they have different net_priv. There are too many 
> such places in very not obvious code pieces.

Actually, I said carry in skb_frag_struct not skb ... that allows for
merging of skbs with different page sources.  The API changes would have
to allow setting at this level.

> > right now it looks like
> > you're using the struct page addition to carry this information from
> > SCSI to net, which is a bit of a layering violation.
> 
> I don't think there is any layering violation here. Just lower layer 
> notifies upper layer that transmission of a page has finished. It's done 
> a bit not straightforward, but still basically the same as, for 
> instance, on_free_cmd() callbacks which SCST core uses to notify target 
> drivers and dev handlers that the corresponding command is about to be 
> freed, so they can free associated with it data as well.

The way you transmit the information you want notification is done by a
private tag in struct page, so you're carrying the information on an
object that belongs to neither layer ... that's the violation.  It's
essentially an extension of the net API that goes via the mm layer.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-12 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-10 18:26 [PATCH][RFC 0/23] New SCSI target framework (SCST) and 4 target drivers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:28 ` [PATCH][RFC 1/23]: SCST public headers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:30 ` [PATCH][RFC 2/23]: SCST core Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:12   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-11 17:28     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 21:09       ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-12-12 19:24         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-12 21:50           ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]             ` <20081212230523.GB4775@ghostprotocols.net>
2008-12-13  1:25               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-13  1:27                 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-13 14:46             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-14  0:35               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-16 21:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 22:13                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-16 22:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-16 23:46                       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-18 11:45                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-20 13:06                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-12-23 19:11                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-27 11:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-30 17:13                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-30 21:03                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2008-12-30 21:35                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-12-10 18:34 ` [PATCH][RFC 3/23]: SCST core docs Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:36 ` [PATCH][RFC 4/23]: SCST debug support Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:37 ` [PATCH][RFC 5/23]: SCST /proc interface Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 20:23   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-12 19:23     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:39 ` [PATCH][RFC 6/23]: SCST SGV cache Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:40 ` [PATCH][RFC 7/23]: SCST integration into the kernel Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:42 ` [PATCH][RFC 8/23]: SCST pass-through backend handlers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:43 ` [PATCH][RFC 9/23]: SCST virtual disk backend handler Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:44 ` [PATCH][RFC 10/23]: SCST user space " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:46 ` [PATCH][RFC 11/23]: Makefile for SCST backend handlers Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:47 ` [PATCH][RFC 12/23]: Patch to add necessary support for SCST pass-through Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:49 ` [PATCH][RFC 13/23]: Export of alloc_io_context() function Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 13:34   ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-11 18:17     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 18:41       ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-11 19:00         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 19:06           ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 19:16             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:50 ` [PATCH][RFC 14/23]: Necessary functionality in qla2xxx driver to support target mode Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:51 ` [PATCH][RFC 15/23]: QLogic target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:54 ` [PATCH][RFC 16/23]: Documentation for " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:55 ` [PATCH][RFC 17/23]: InfiniBand SRP " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:57 ` [PATCH][RFC 18/23]: Documentation for " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 18:58 ` [PATCH][RFC 19/23]: scst_local " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:00 ` [PATCH][RFC 20/23]: Documentation for scst_local driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:01 ` [PATCH][RFC 21/23]: iSCSI target driver Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 22:55   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-11 22:59     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-12 19:26     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-13 10:03       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-13 10:11         ` Bart Van Assche
2008-12-13 10:16           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2008-12-13 10:27             ` Bart Van Assche
2008-12-13 15:01             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-13 14:57         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:02 ` [PATCH][RFC 22/23]: Documentation for iSCSI-SCST Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 19:04 ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: Support for zero-copy TCP transmit of user space data Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-10 21:45   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-11 18:16     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-11 19:12       ` James Bottomley
2008-12-12 19:25         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-12 19:37           ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-12-15 17:58             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-15 23:18               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-16 18:57                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-18 18:35                   ` [RFC]: " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-18 18:43                     ` David M. Lloyd
2008-12-19 17:37                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:07                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-19 19:17                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 19:27                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-19 21:58                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:11                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 11:27                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:38                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-19 18:00                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-19 17:57                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-16 16:00     ` [PATCH][RFC 23/23]: " Bart Van Assche
2008-12-16 17:41       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 20:21   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:04     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-19 22:21       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-19 22:33         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20  1:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  2:02             ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20  6:14               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  6:51                 ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20  7:43                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-20  8:10                     ` Herbert Xu
2008-12-20 10:32                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-20 19:39                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-12-22  0:43                           ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-23 19:14                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 19:16                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-23 21:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 14:37                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 14:44                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-24 17:46                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-24 18:08                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-30 17:37                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-12-30 21:35                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-23 19:13     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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