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From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] sunrpc: Improve UTS namespace workaround
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:02:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231297332.14345.334.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E184097A-C995-4C92-9608-A97B43E750E0@oracle.com>

Argh, missed some questions I should've answered earlier...

On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 11:02 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> Matt-
> 
> Thanks for pursuing a permanent fix for this.
> 
> On Jan 5, 2009, at Jan 5, 2009, 8:13 PM, Matt Helsley wrote:
> 
> > We can improve upon a workaround applied in commit
> > 63ffc23d307c9534c732edd87895e37b223004a3 ( http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=63ffc23d307c9534c732edd87895e37b223004a3 
> >  )
> >
> > The original problem was:
> >
> > "On a system with nfs mounts, if a task unshares its mount namespace,
> > a oops can occur when the system is rebooted if the task is the last
> > to unreference the nfs mount. It will try to create a rpc request
> > using utsname() which has been invalidated by free_nsproxy()."
> >
> > Cedric worked around this by always using the initial uts namespace  
> > for RPC.
> > Critically this workaround meant that RPC clients in uts namespaces  
> > can never
> > report the changed nodename when utilizing RPC.
> >
> > Fix that by storing the nodename in the NFS server structure (part  
> > of the NFS
> > super block) and, when an RPC client is operating on behalf of NFS,  
> > reporting
> > that nodename. This solves the problem for NFS clients but leaves  
> > any other
> > RPC users out in the cold.
> >
> > Rather than caching the nodename in the client structure RPC should  
> > obtain the
> > nodename from RPC callers. It would then be up to those services  
> > making RPC
> > calls to cache the nodename for as long as necessary -- somewhat  
> > like this patch
> > does with NFS.
> 
> Instead of having the RPC client call the consumer back, why can't you  
> pass the nodename as an argument to each RPC call; say, via the  
> rpc_message structure?

I suspect it would work and it would avoid the layering violation you
pointed out.

> > NOTE: Part of Cedric's workaround -- use of the initial uts  
> > namespace -- is
> > still necessary because non-NFS RPC callers still rely on the  
> > nodename cached
> > with the RPC client struct.
> 
> In the long run I think it would be more useful to spell out where  
> each consumer gets its nodename value, rather than having a convenient  
> default value.  A default would encourage exposing nodenames  
> inappropriately due to sloppy coding and incorrect assumptions (on the  
> developer's part) about a complex API.

You make some good points here. I'll add your idea to my list of patches
to try writing:
	1. Store a reference to the uts namespace with the credentials
	2. Pass the nodename directly for each RPC call (via rpc_message
		perhaps)

<snip>

> > Index: linux-2.6.28/include/linux/sunrpc/clnt.h
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6.28.orig/include/linux/sunrpc/clnt.h
> > +++ linux-2.6.28/include/linux/sunrpc/clnt.h
> > @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
> > #include <asm/signal.h>
> >
> > struct rpc_inode;
> > +struct nfs_server;
> >
> > /*
> >  * The high-level client handle
> > @@ -50,6 +51,7 @@ struct rpc_clnt {
> >
> > 	int			cl_nodelen;	/* nodename length */
> > 	char 			cl_nodename[UNX_MAXNODENAME];
> > +	struct nfs_server	*cl_nfs_server;
> 
> This is a layering violation...  I would rather avoid introducing new  
> strong data structure dependencies on one of RPC's consumers.

<snip>

I addressed your other comments in an earlier reply.

Thanks!

Cheers,
	-Matt Helsley


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06  1:13 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] utsns: RPC/NFS bug rework Matt Helsley
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] Remove useless utsname.h includes Matt Helsley
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: Use utsnamespaces Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:02   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 20:20     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 21:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 23:35         ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:43       ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 20:44     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 21:58       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06 22:42         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:08           ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  0:20             ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:43               ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  1:10                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:20             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:23               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  3:44                 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:15           ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:32             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 23:35               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:48                 ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:51                 ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-06 23:53                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:07                   ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  0:55                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-07  0:20                   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:20                 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  0:26                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  0:38                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  1:44                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-07  1:50                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-07  2:37                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-06 23:30         ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:18       ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 23:43         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:58           ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 22:29     ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07  0:01       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] sunrpc: Improve UTS namespace workaround Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 16:02   ` Chuck Lever
2009-01-07  0:28     ` Matt Helsley
2009-01-07  3:02     ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2009-01-06  1:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] Represent RPC Callers Matt Helsley
2009-01-06 13:04   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-01-06 23:05     ` Matt Helsley

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