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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ccache@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Recent change to kernel spikes out ccache/distcc
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:16:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231953379.14825.29.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1LKDeQ-0002xz-7E@closure.thunk.org>

On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 10:15 -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> The following commit, ad7a953c, "kbuild: strip generated symbols from
> *.ko" which was merged to the mainline last week (December 28th) has the
> unfortunate side effct of making ccache useless.  That's because all
> files are now built using a two step process.  First they are compiled
> to assembly via "gcc -S -o .tmp_foo.s" and then assembled via "gcc" in a
> separate step.  Unfortunately, ccache doesn't seem to be able to cache
> either the compilation or the assembly step (and it may not be worth it
> once the two steps are separated).
> 
> It would be nice if there was a CONFIG option which compiles files the
> old-fashioned way, even if we lose the ability to strip the__crc_
> symbols, just so that ccache can function again, since it can really
> speed up the kernel development process.  Alternatively, maybe ccache
> could somehow be taught a specialized way take the .c file, some kind of
> kbuild-specified version identifier, and then output of the gcc -S,
> assembly frobnication, gcc -c, objcopy pipeline that kbuild uses to
> build an object file, so we can have cache the entire kbuild object
> building process.
> 
> Or, if that's too complicated, maybe it would be worthwhile to have
> kbuild create its own specialized ccache system?  Note that the last two
> solutions rule out using distcc, unless we can encapsulate the build
> process from a series of Makefile macros to a shell or C program, which
> could then be injected to the remote host system to be executed by
> distcc.  One value of doing that is the CRC or MD5 of the shell script
> could be used as the version tag for the cache system.
> 
> In the short term, though, it would be nice if we could get back a
> simple way of making a kernel  object file using just cc, so that ccache
> and distcc could be functional again.   Does that seem reasonable?

So what's the current status on this, could we get it reverted ASAP or
add that CONFIG_ switch (default N)?

Leaving the build system broken for so long just isn't cool.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-14 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 15:15 [REGRESSION] Recent change to kernel spikes out ccache/distcc Theodore Ts'o
2009-01-06 15:29 ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-06 17:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 17:48     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-06 18:04       ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  8:50     ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 11:31       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 12:35         ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:23           ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07 13:48             ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 20:06               ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-08 19:16                 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-12 14:06                 ` Gilles Espinasse
2009-01-06 17:53   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-06 16:26 ` David Miller
2009-01-06 18:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-06 22:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-07  4:33   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07  5:10 ` Al Viro
2009-01-07  8:49   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:03     ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:28       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:37         ` Al Viro
2009-01-07 14:40           ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 13:12 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 13:39   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-07 14:28     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-07 14:39       ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-08 19:17   ` Dave Jones
2009-01-08 21:31     ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 21:48       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-11 22:11         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:51         ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-11 22:55           ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-14 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-01-15  9:11   ` Jan Beulich
2009-01-15 13:40     ` Theodore Tso

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