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From: david safford <safford@watson.ibm.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] integrity: IMA as an integrity service provider
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:36:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1233668170.4263.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090202230211.GA18452@hallyn.com>

On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 17:02 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Mimi Zohar (zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> > +
> > +/* Add template entry to the measurement list and hash table,
> > + * and extend the pcr.
> > + */
> > +int ima_add_template_entry(struct ima_template_entry *entry, int violation,
> > +			   const char *op, struct inode *inode)
> > +{
> > +	u8 digest[IMA_DIGEST_SIZE];
> > +	const char *audit_cause = "hash_added";
> > +	int audit_info = 1;
> > +	int result = 0;
> > +
> > +	mutex_lock(&ima_extend_list_mutex);
> > +	if (!violation) {
> > +		memcpy(digest, entry->digest, sizeof digest);
> > +		if (ima_lookup_digest_entry(digest)) {
> > +			audit_cause = "hash_exists";
> > +			goto out;
> 
> Ok so not that I'm saying this would be easy, but an attacker
> compromising say ftpd doesn't need to come up with a compromised
> ftpd where sha1sum(evilftpd)==sha1sum(origftpd) - he just needs to
> come up with one wher sha1sum(evilftpd)==sha1sum(X) where X is
> any pristine program already loaded.  Right?
> 
> Is checking that strcmp(entry->file_name, newfilename)==0 warranted
> here, or am I being silly?

The birthday paradox, which is essential for any practical attack,
requires that the attacker can freely choose both x and y in 
his search for collisions sha1sum(x) == sha1sum(y). Here, the
attacker cannot freely choose x, but can only choose x from a list
of existing files. Even if there are a million valid files, that only
reduces the attack complexity by 2^20, which is still infeasible.

dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-29 22:23 [PATCH 0/6] integrity Mimi Zohar
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] integrity: IMA hooks Mimi Zohar
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] integrity: IMA as an integrity service provider Mimi Zohar
2009-01-30  0:07   ` James Morris
2009-01-30 19:29     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-01-30  9:04   ` James Morris
2009-01-30 13:13     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-02-02 23:02   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-03  2:09     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-02-03 13:36     ` david safford [this message]
2009-02-03 14:03       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] integrity: IMA display Mimi Zohar
2009-01-30  9:18   ` James Morris
2009-01-30 13:14     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-02-02 23:14       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-03  0:03         ` James Morris
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] integrity: IMA policy Mimi Zohar
2009-02-02 23:40   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-03  1:29     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] integrity: IMA policy open Mimi Zohar
2009-01-29 22:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] Integrity: IMA file free imbalance Mimi Zohar
2009-02-02 23:47   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-03  1:27     ` Mimi Zohar
2009-02-06  0:00 ` [PATCH 0/6] integrity James Morris
2009-02-06  2:29   ` Mimi Zohar
2009-02-06  8:14     ` James Morris

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