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From: "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Add clflush before monitor for Intel 7400 series - v2
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:37:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1234215437.4286.396.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902091653.26570.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 21:53 -0800, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Sunday 08 February 2009 03:47:07 Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:02:45AM -0800, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:47:29 -0800
> > >
> > > "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > For Intel 7400 series CPUs, the recommendation is to use a clflush on
> > > > the monitored address just before monitor and mwait pair [1]. This
> > > > clflush makes sure that there are no false wakeups from mwait when the
> > > > monitored address was recently written to.
> > >
> > > Given our mwait usages will very quickly go back to sleep in such a case
> > > and it would almost certainly be one sleep only is this really worth the
> > > effort ?
> >
> > Yes. If we only consider the CPU idle behavior, we really do not need the
> > patch as we will go back to idle. But, there are other factors:
> > - drivers/idle/i7300_idle.c  which tries to save memory power based on CPU
> >   idle time. It gets confused with these short idles.
> > - cpuidle menu governor  These platforms may also support more than one
> > C-state. C1 and CC3. So, we will go through the C-state policy in menu
> > governor, which again looks at idle time and may end up taking wrong
> > decisions due to these short idles.
> >
> > We can make the above code to be more clever, to ignore short idles. But,
> > this patch seems to be the easier and clean way as the errata is only in a
> > particular CPU model.
> 
> Have you benchmarked it? With something like tbench which IIRC should
> generate a good number of idle/busy transitions?
> 

We haven't run tbench specifically. But, we noticed this issue running
specpower workload on this platform. Especially the 10-20% point of
specpower, which also has notable idle/busy transitions, this patch
helps.

Thanks,
Venki



  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-09 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-07  0:47 [PATCH] x86: Add clflush before monitor for Intel 7400 series - v2 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-02-07 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2009-02-07 16:47   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-02-09  5:53     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-09 21:37       ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-07  0:52 Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-02-09 10:15 ` Ingo Molnar

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