From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Dominique Toupin <dominique.toupin@ericsson.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
acme@ghostprotocols.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] new irq tracer
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:23:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1235719394.4948.1261.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090227121053.152B.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 12:14 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > Given this scenario :
> > > >
> > > > A telecommunication system runs, but the client notices
> > > something wrong.
> > > > They call their service provider. The provider enables tracing
> > > > _remotely_ on the _production system_ while it's _active in
> > > the field_.
> > > >
> > > > Bam, those few milliseconds interrupt latencies become unacceptable.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully this scenario makes the use-case clearer. The
> > > problem is not
> > > > that interrupt latencies would occur while tracing is on,
> > > but rather
> > > > that it would happen on a running production system when switching
> > > > tracing on. This is what is totally unacceptable for this use-case.
> > > >
> > > > For more details about such requirements, I'm CCing
> > > Dominique Toupin
> > > > from Ericsson who I'm sure would be happy to give more
> > > details about
> > > > this if needed.
> > >
> > > Hmm, so this system in the field is running Linux with the
> > > Real-Time Patch? Because if it isn't it will suffer from
> > > millisecond latencies in normal operation.
> >
> > In many cases we don't use Linux real-time, we have many systems that
> > are soft-real-time an non real-time Linux is good enough.
> >
>
> Agreed, rt-patch seems off topics. we discuss to mainline kernel.
Exactly, hence you should not worry about ms irq-off latencies, since
mainline is happy to generate those for you, regardless of
function-trace.
The only way to complain about those is if your base system is better
than that, and currently only preempt-rt provides that.
So unless you're on preempt-rt, complaining about ms-order irq latencies
just isn't a valid argument.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-27 7:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 19:53 [PATCH] new irq tracer Jason Baron
2009-02-18 20:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-18 20:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-19 1:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-18 20:30 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-02-18 21:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 21:35 ` Jason Baron
2009-02-18 21:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 22:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-18 22:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 22:23 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-18 23:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-20 19:52 ` Jason Baron
2009-02-21 3:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-22 3:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-25 16:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-02-25 16:57 ` Jason Baron
2009-02-25 17:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-25 18:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-25 22:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-25 22:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-25 23:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-26 1:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-26 12:37 ` Dominique Toupin
2009-02-27 3:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-27 3:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-27 3:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-27 7:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-27 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-27 8:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-27 13:10 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-02-27 14:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-27 7:23 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-02-25 22:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-26 15:11 ` Jason Baron
2009-02-26 15:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-26 15:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-26 16:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-27 3:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-27 3:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-27 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-25 16:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-25 17:19 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-02-27 3:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-18 23:34 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-02-19 2:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-19 1:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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