From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:42:04 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236368524.10626.96.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090306182451.GA6307@us.ibm.com>
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 12:24 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > But, these "early stage" messages are completely opposed to an approach
> > that uses sys_checkpoint() in some form (like with a -1 fd as an
> > argument).
>
> Well I disagree with that. The 'early stage' messages could be seen as
> either:
>
> 1. a short-term way to prioritize resources to support
> or
> 2. a long-term way to catch new resources introduced
> without checkpoint/restart support
>
> I don't believe 2. would work. I think 1. would work, but that we
> risk imposing permanent code changes to support a temporary goal.
I should be a bit more clear. My goal (and I think Ingo's) here is to
come up with a mechanism that will make the checkpoint feature less
likely to break once we merge it into the tree. I'm looking for a tool
that people can utilize, even if they don't necessarily care about
checkpoint/restart.
If we *completely* depend on sys_checkpoint() as the interface for
determining if we are checkpointable, we don't have such a tool. We
have a tool that the checkpoint/restart developers and probably some
testers can and certainly will use. This is still very, very useful.
But, it probably won't ever generate a bug report from anyone who
doesn't specifically care about c/r.
As far as detecting *new* resources. Well, crap. I don't think our
little ->may_checkpoint flags can do that. My little f_op trick will
help and is better than nothing. But, as you noted, it is far from
perfect because we'll probably have people just copying the generic*
functions into new code.
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-06 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-05 16:38 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/11] kill '_data' in cr_hdr_fd_data name Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/11] breakout fdinfo sprintf() into its own function Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/11] Introduce generic_file_checkpoint() Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/11] actually use f_op in checkpoint code Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/11] add generic checkpoint f_op to ext fses Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 2:50 ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/11] add checkpoint_file_generic() to /proc Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/11] file c/r: expose functions to query fs support Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/11] expose file checkpointability and reasoning in /proc Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/11] check files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-09 17:38 ` Matt Helsley
2009-03-12 19:14 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] add checkpoint/restart compile helper Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] optimize c/r check in dup_fd() Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 17:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-05 19:16 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 21:08 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-05 21:27 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 22:00 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-05 22:24 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 14:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 15:48 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 16:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 16:46 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 18:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 19:42 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2009-03-13 3:05 ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-06 15:08 ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-06 15:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 17:36 ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-06 18:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-11 7:51 ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-12 15:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 6:36 ` Ensuring c/r maintainability (WAS Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability) Matt Helsley
2009-03-13 17:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-05 19:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 18:13 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-05 18:16 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-10 15:57 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 16:00 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 16:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 16:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 17:23 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 17:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-10 16:22 ` Dave Hansen
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