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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Balazs Scheidler <bazsi@balabit.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: scheduler oddity [bug?]
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:39:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236537580.7094.8.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090308175255.GA22802@elte.hu>

On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 18:52 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 16:39 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The problem with your particular testcase is that while one 
> > > > half has an avg_overlap (what we use as affinity hint for 
> > > > synchronous wakeups) which triggers the affinity hint, the 
> > > > other half has avg_overlap of zero, what it was born with, so 
> > > > despite significant execution overlap, the scheduler treats 
> > > > them as if they were truly synchronous tasks.
> > > 
> > > hm, why does it stay on zero?
> > 
> > Wakeup preemption.  Presuming here: heavy task wakes light 
> > task, is preempted, light task stuffs data into pipe, heavy 
> > task doesn't block, so no avg_overlap is ever computed.  The 
> > heavy task uses 100% CPU.
> > 
> > Running as SCHED_BATCH (virgin source), it becomes sane.
> 
> ah.
> 
> I'd argue then that time spent on the rq preempted _should_ 
> count in avg_overlap statistics. I.e. couldnt we do something 
> like ... your patch? :)
> 
> > >     if (sleep && p->se.last_wakeup) {
> > >             update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap,
> > >                        p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup);
> > >             p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> > > -   }
> > > +   } else if (p->se.avg_overlap < limit && runtime >= limit)
> > > +           update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> 
> Just done unconditionally, i.e. something like:
> 
> 	if (sleep) {
> 		runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup;
> 		p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> 	} else {
> 		runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.prev_sum_exec_runtime;
> 	}
> 
> 	update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> 
> ?

That'll do it for this load.  I'll resume in the a.m., give that some
testing, and try to remember all the things I was paranoid about.
(getting interrupted a _lot_.. i give up on today;)

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-08 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-07 17:47 scheduler oddity [bug?] Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-07 18:47 ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-08 19:45   ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-08 22:03     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-03-09  3:35       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 11:19     ` David Newall
2009-03-08  9:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08  9:58   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 10:02     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 10:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-08 13:35       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 15:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 16:20       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-08 17:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 18:39           ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2009-03-08 18:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09  4:10               ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09  6:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09  8:02           ` [patch] " Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09  8:07             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 10:16               ` David Newall
2009-03-09 11:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:16                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 13:27                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:51                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:00                     ` David Newall
2009-03-09 14:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-10  0:20                         ` David Newall
2009-03-09 13:37                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 13:46                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 13:58                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:11                         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 14:41                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 15:30                             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-09 16:12                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-09 17:28                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-15 13:53                                   ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-15 17:16                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-15 18:57                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 11:55                                         ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-09 15:57             ` Balazs Scheidler
2009-03-10  3:16               ` Mike Galbraith

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