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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rdreier@cisco.com,
	jirislaby@gmail.com, peterz@infradead.org, will.newton@gmail.com,
	hancockrwd@gmail.com, jeremy@goop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] introduce macro spin_event_timeout()
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:01:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236729711.7086.28.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090310153537.5fd5d84d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:35 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > This primary purpose of this macro is to poll on a hardware register until a
> > status bit changes.  The timeout ensures that the loop still terminates if the
> > bit doesn't change as expected.  This macro makes it easier for driver
> > developers to perform this kind of operation properly.
> 
> NAK this - on a lot of platforms 1uS is the wrong timescale. Also we
> shouldn't be encouraging this kind of polling by making it very easy to
> write.
> 
> It might be a useful internal macro for some freescale drivers but if so
> it doesn't belong in the core headers

I don't totally agree with your reasoning here Alan.

A simple fact of life is that drivers -will- do that sort spinning. They
don't always have a choice. Now do we want all drivers to do it
differently and get it wrong (such as not having timeouts etc...) or do
we provide a helper that has the added advantage of allowing us a lot
more easily to audit them ?

Hell, we can even make the helper warn if called with a too high timeout
value or that sort of thing...

I think it's all benefit to move that sort of cruft to a generic helper
like that in the long run.

Cheers,
Ben.
 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-11  0:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-10 15:30 [PATCH v4] introduce macro spin_event_timeout() Timur Tabi
2009-03-10 15:35 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-10 15:50   ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-10 16:05     ` Will Newton
2009-03-10 16:11       ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-11  0:01   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-03-11  0:37     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-11 16:48       ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-11 16:58         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-11 18:18           ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-11 21:58             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-12  2:45               ` Grant Likely
2009-03-12 15:54                 ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-12 16:01                   ` Grant Likely
2009-03-12 16:19                     ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-12 16:50                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-12 19:05                         ` Timur Tabi
2009-03-13  3:03                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-13  4:51                             ` Grant Likely
2009-03-10 18:41 ` Grant Likely
2009-03-10 19:04   ` Timur Tabi

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