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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG,2.6.28,s390] Fails to boot in Hercules S/390 emulator
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:34:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236818044.7680.153.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903112005.38181.elendil@planet.nl>

On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 20:05 +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> Sorry for the mail flood. This is the last one and then I'm going to wait for some reactions.
> 
> On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> > So, lets look next what happens if I allow clock->error to be changed
> > here. This makes the boot fail and I believe that this is the critical
> > change in 5cd1c9c5cf30.
> [...]
> > Note that clock->xtime_nsec is now running backwards and the crazy
> > values for clock->error.
> >
> > From this I conclude that clock->error is getting buggered somewhere
> > else: we get a completely different value back from what is calculated
> > here. The calculation here is still correct:
> > $ echo $(( -4292487689804800 + (-256 << 24) ))
> > -4292491984772096
> >
> > I suspect that clock->error running back is what causes my hang.
> 
> s/clock->error/clock->xtime_nsec/ of course.
> 
> Looking a bit closer at what Roman's patch 5cd1c9c5cf30 does, I see this:
> 
> -       clock->xtime_nsec += (s64)xtime.tv_nsec << clock->shift;
> +       clock->xtime_nsec = (s64)xtime.tv_nsec << clock->shift;
> [...]
>         clocksource_adjust(offset);
> -       xtime.tv_nsec = (s64)clock->xtime_nsec >> clock->shift;
> +       xtime.tv_nsec = ((s64)clock->xtime_nsec >> clock->shift) + 1;
>         clock->xtime_nsec -= (s64)xtime.tv_nsec << clock->shift;
> +       clock->error += clock->xtime_nsec << (NTP_SCALE_SHIFT - clock->shift);
> 
> So, in the old situation the code first added xtime.tv_nsec to
> clock->xtime_nsec and later subtracted it again, so there's symmetry.
> 
> In the new code we no longer do the first, but still do the second. That
> seems strange and probably upsets assumptions in the code in between, which
> includes the call to clocksource_adjust(). AFAICT this is the root cause of
> the overflow visible in my earliest traces.
> I've done some tries to correct that, but did not find anything that really
> worked.

No not quite. We use clock->xtime_nsec to store the high precision
xtime.tv_nsec. Its use is as follows:

1) We initialize it to xtime.tv_nsec << clock->shift
2) We accumulate into it
3) We tweak it as needed from clocksource_adjust()
4) We then store its value shifted back down and rounded up into
xtiem.tv_nsec.
5) We calculate the the difference between the rounded up value and
xtime_nsec, and add it to the error.

I'm still a little baffled, but I figure I can try to reproduce this
myself. So I'm working setting up hercules environment here to see if I
can't trigger it. Any help with config or links to your environment
would be great.

thanks
-john




  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-12  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-08  1:30 [BUG,2.6.28,s390] Fails to boot in Hercules S/390 emulator Frans Pop
2009-03-08  7:21 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-09 15:04 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-11  1:00   ` john stultz
2009-03-11  9:00     ` Frans Pop
2009-03-11 16:03     ` Frans Pop
2009-03-11 17:05       ` Frans Pop
2009-03-11 19:05       ` Frans Pop
2009-03-12  0:34         ` john stultz [this message]
2009-03-12  4:47           ` john stultz
2009-03-12  6:51             ` Frans Pop
2009-03-17  5:15               ` john stultz
2009-03-17 14:39                 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-12  0:30       ` john stultz
2009-03-12  0:47         ` john stultz
2009-03-12  1:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-12  1:57             ` john stultz
2009-03-12  7:50               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-12 17:05           ` [BUG,2.6.28,s390] Fails to boot in Hercules S/390 emulator - hang traced Frans Pop
2009-03-13 11:48             ` Frans Pop
2009-03-13 17:34               ` Frans Pop
2009-03-17  5:09               ` john stultz
2009-03-18  2:26             ` john stultz
2009-03-18  2:54               ` john stultz
2009-03-18  9:28                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-18 12:07                   ` Frans Pop
2009-03-18 15:48                     ` John Stultz
2009-03-23  0:11                       ` Frans Pop
2009-03-23 22:19                         ` John Stultz
2009-03-24  8:23                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-14 22:27                         ` [PATCH] Avoid possible endless loop when using jiffies clocksource and ONESHOT mode clockevent john stultz
2009-03-18 15:39                   ` [BUG,2.6.28,s390] Fails to boot in Hercules S/390 emulator - hang traced John Stultz
2009-03-10  3:09 ` [BUG,2.6.28,s390] Fails to boot in Hercules S/390 emulator John Stultz
2009-03-10  3:37   ` Frans Pop
2009-03-10  3:38     ` John Stultz

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