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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] perf_counter: fix update_userpage()
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:50:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1238662238.8530.5622.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18894.49084.341238.775487@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:24 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:

> > --- linux-2.6.orig/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > +++ linux-2.6/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > @@ -160,10 +160,45 @@ struct perf_counter_hw_event {
> >  struct perf_counter_mmap_page {
> >  	__u32	version;		/* version number of this structure */
> >  	__u32	compat_version;		/* lowest version this is compat with */
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Bits needed to read the hw counters in user-space.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * The index and offset should be read atomically using the seqlock:
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   __u32 seq, index;
> > +	 *   __s64 offset;
> > +	 *
> > +	 * again:
> > +	 *   rmb();
> > +	 *   seq = pc->lock;
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   if (unlikely(seq & 1)) {
> > +	 *     cpu_relax();
> > +	 *     goto again;
> > +	 *   }
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   index = pc->index;
> > +	 *   offset = pc->offset;
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   rmb();
> > +	 *   if (pc->lock != seq)
> > +	 *     goto again;
> > +	 *
> > +	 * After this, index contains architecture specific counter index + 1,
> > +	 * so that 0 means unavailable, offset contains the value to be added
> > +	 * to the result of the raw timer read to obtain this counter's value.
> > +	 */
> >  	__u32	lock;			/* seqlock for synchronization */
> >  	__u32	index;			/* hardware counter identifier */
> >  	__s64	offset;			/* add to hardware counter value */
> 
> I think we can simplify this (in a follow-on patch).
> 
> It has occurred to me that we don't need to do all this on the
> userspace side, because we are necessarily reading and writing these
> fields on the same CPU.  If the reader and writer were on different
> CPUs, that would make no sense since they would be accessing different
> hardware counter registers.
> 
> That means that we don't need any CPU memory barriers on either side.
> All the kernel needs to do is to increment `lock' when it updates
> things, and the user side can be:
> 
> 	do {
> 		seq = pc->lock;
> 		index = pc->index;
> 		offset = pc->offset;
> 		barrier();
> 	} while (pc->lock != seq);
> 
> and all that's needed is a compiler barrier to stop the compiler from
> optimizing too much.

Can this work at all?

I mean, user-space could get preempted/rescheduled after we read the
mmap() data using that seqlock and before we actually did the read-pmc
bit.

In that case, the counter can have changed underneath us and we're
reading rubbish.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-28 19:43 [PATCH 0/9] perf_counter patches Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf_counter: unify and fix delayed counter wakeup Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-29  0:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-29  9:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-29  9:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-29 10:02         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf_counter: fix update_userpage() Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-29  0:24   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02  8:50     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-04-02  9:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:21         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02  9:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:15       ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02  9:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-02  9:58           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-02 10:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf_counter: kerneltop: simplify data_head read Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf_counter: executable mmap() information Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf_counter: kerneltop: parse the mmap data stream Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf_counter: powerpc: only reserve PMU hardware when we need it Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf_counter: make it possible for hw_perf_counter_init to return error codes Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-30  4:13   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf_counter tools: optionally scale counter values in perfstat mode Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-28 19:44 ` [PATCH 9/9] RFC perf_counter: event overlow handling Peter Zijlstra

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