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From: Greg Kurz <gkurz@fr.ibm.com>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:46:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239957974.6143.36.camel@bahia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416161215.GA8505@x200.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 20:12 +0400, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:42:17AM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:56 +0400, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> 
> > > There are sockets and live netns as the most complex example. I'm not
> > > prepared to describe it exactly, but people wishing to do C/R with
> > > "leaks" should be very careful with their wishes.
> > 
> > They should close their sockets before checkpoint and find/have some way
> > to reconnect after. This implies some kind of C/R awareness in the code
> > to be checkpointed.
> 
> How do you imagine sshd closing sockets and reconnecting?

Dunno and it isn't really my concern... I'm interested in HPC jobs that
can collaborate with the C/R feature. For examples, those jobs that use
interconnect hardware that will never be *checkpointable*... Usually,
the batch manager tells the jobs it's going to be checkpointed, so that
it can disconnect/shrink memory/reach quiescent point, and reconnect
after resuming execution.

I understand you aim at supporting transparent C/R of connected TCP
sockets. Nice feature. Could you give use cases where it's *really*
helpful/needed/mandatory ?

-- 
Gregory Kurz                                     gkurz@fr.ibm.com
Software Engineer @ IBM/Meiosys                  http://www.ibm.com
Tel +33 (0)534 638 479                           Fax +33 (0)561 400 420

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-17  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-14  3:43 Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel Oren Laadan
2009-04-14  9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 14:53   ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 16:16     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-14 16:36 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-14 16:46   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-14 18:40   ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 19:59     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-14 20:10       ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 21:01         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-15 19:56     ` C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel) Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-15 21:38       ` C/R without "leaks" Oren Laadan
2009-04-22  0:16         ` Nathan Lynch
2009-04-15 22:42       ` C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel) Greg Kurz
2009-04-16 16:12         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-16 18:10           ` C/R without "leaks" Chris Friesen
2009-04-16 18:39             ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-17  9:15               ` Greg Kurz
2009-04-17  9:48                 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-17 12:25                   ` Greg Kurz
2009-04-17  8:46           ` Greg Kurz [this message]

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