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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lenb@kernel.org" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"menage@google.com" <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]cpuset: add new API to change cpuset top group's cpus
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1242723364.26820.466.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090519084852.GA13682@sli10-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:48 +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:40:54PM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 15:39 +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > > ACPI 4.0 defines processor aggregator device. The device can notify OS to idle
> > > some CPUs to save power. This isn't to hot remove cpus, but just makes cpus
> > > idle.
> > > 
> > > This patch adds one API to change cpuset top group's cpus. If we want to
> > > make one cpu idle, simply remove the cpu from cpuset top group's cpu list,
> > > then all tasks will be migrate to other cpus, and other tasks will not be
> > > migrated to this cpu again. No functional changes.
> > > 
> > > We will use this API in new ACPI processor aggregator device driver later.
> > 
> > I don't think so. There really is a lot more to do than move processes
> > about.
> no processor running is good enough for us, we don't care about interrupts/softirq/
> timers so far.

Well, I don't care for this interface.

> > Furthermore, I object to being able to remove online cpus from the top
> > cpuset, that just doesn't make sense.
> > 
> > I'd suggest using hotplug for this.

> cpu hotplug involves too much things, and we are afraid it's not reliable.

Then make it more reliable instead of providing ugly ass shit like this.

> Besides, a hot removed cpu will do a dead loop halt, which isn't power saving
> efficient. To make hot removed cpu enters deep C-state is in whish list for a
> long time, but still not available. The acpi_processor_idle is a module, and
> cpuidle governor potentially can't handle offline cpu.

Then fix that hot-unplug idle loop. I agree that the hlt thing is silly,
and I've no idea why its still there, seems like a much better candidate
for your efforts than this.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-19  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-19  7:39 [PATCH]cpuset: add new API to change cpuset top group's cpus Shaohua Li
2009-05-19  8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19  8:48   ` Shaohua Li
2009-05-19  8:56     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-05-19  9:06       ` Shaohua Li
2009-05-19  9:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 10:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 13:37         ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-05-28  2:34           ` Len Brown
2009-05-28  7:44             ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-05-19 19:01         ` Len Brown
2009-05-19 22:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 11:58             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-20 12:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 13:13                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-20 13:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 14:45                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-20 17:36                     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-05-21  1:22                       ` Shaohua Li
2009-05-21  3:20                         ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-05-20 17:21           ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-05-19 11:27   ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-19 12:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 19:55 ` Paul Menage

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