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From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@tuxonice.net>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	tuxonice-devel@lists.tuxonice.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [TuxOnIce-devel] [RFC] TuxOnIce
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:42:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1243298544.16743.164.camel@nigel-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905260045.33902.oliver@neukum.org>

Hi Oliver.

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 00:45 +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Montag, 25. Mai 2009 23:43:23 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> > > Oh, before I forget to mention and you ask - how to know what allowance
> > > for the drivers? I use a sysfs entry - the user then just needs to see
> > > what's needed on their first attempt, set up a means of putting that
> > > value in the sysfs file in future (eg /etc/hibernate/tuxonice.conf) and
> > > then forget about it.
> >
> > OK, this is reasonable.
> 
> No, I am afraid it is not. The average user has no clue. Even if that
> is not the problem, the user never knows for sure he has encountered
> the worst case. If you really have drivers that have exceptionally
> large memory requirements (eg. you need to copy video ram), you
> should tell the system through struct driver and do accounting at
> probe and removal of devices.

I'm not suggesting they should expect to know before trying. TuxOnIce
tells you how many were needed in the debugging info printk'd at the end
of a cycle. Add a margin (400 is generally more than adequate) and
you'll have the number you're after:

TuxOnIce debugging info:
- TuxOnIce core  : 3.0.2
- Kernel Version : 2.6.30-rc6
- Compiler vers. : 4.3
- Attempt number : 8
- Parameters     : 0 667656 0 1 0 4
- Overall expected compression percentage: 45.
- Max outstanding reads 1091. Max writes 1089.
  Memory_needed: 1024 x (4096 + 368 + 104) = 4677632 bytes.
  Free mem throttle point reached 0.
- SwapAllocator active.
  Swap available for image: 733753 pages.
- FileAllocator inactive.
- Compressor is 'lzo'.
  Compressed 3215572992 bytes into 1121302124 (65 percent compression).
- I/O speed: Write 119 MB/s, Read 120 MB/s.
- Extra pages    : 832 used/2000.
- Result         : Succeeded.

Regards,

Nigel


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-06 14:38 [RFC] TuxOnIce Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/19] TuxOnIce: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-16 20:10   ` Vegard Nossum
2009-05-16 22:18     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/19] TuxOnIce: GEMS support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:38 ` [PATCH 3/19] TuxOnIce: Make drop_pagecache non-static and declared in mm.h Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/19] TuxOnIce: Add support for just thawing kernel threads Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/19] TuxOnIce: Create means of determining how many pages can be allocated Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/19] TuxOnIce: Make functions and variables shared with swsusp non-static Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 7/19] TuxOnIce: Modify swsusp bitmaps to allow modification during scanning Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 8/19] TuxOnIce: Add core TuxOnIce code Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 9/19] TuxOnIce: Netlink support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 21:03   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 21:35     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07  4:34       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 10/19] TuxOnIce: Storage manager support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 11/19] TuxOnIce: Block I/O engine Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 12/19] TuxOnIce: Compression support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 13/19] TuxOnIce: File allocator Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 14/19] TuxOnIce: Swap support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 15/19] TuxOnIce: Userspace user interface support Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 16/19] TuxOnIce: Warn user if an initrd doesn't include an attempt at resuming Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 17/19] TuxOnIce: Support for replacing swsusp Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 18/19] TuxOnIce: Provide a means of determining the freezer state Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 19/19] TuxOnIce: Don't try to wake kswapd if the freezer is on Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:09 ` [RFC] TuxOnIce Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 15:28   ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:05     ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-09  9:10       ` Stefan Richter
2009-05-10  5:37       ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-10  5:37     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 16:55   ` U Kuehn
2009-05-07 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 17:49       ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 18:54         ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Kenneth Crudup
2009-05-07 17:52       ` Matt Price
2009-05-07 18:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 18:57           ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 19:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:41               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:14                 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-07 23:32                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 23:43                     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:13                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:39                         ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-08  0:49                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08  0:18                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:46             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  7:11               ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-07 21:42     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  0:11     ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-07 17:42   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 21:51     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08  1:34       ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 14:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 21:52           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 22:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 23:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 10:05                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:43                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:15                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                       ` <1243288705.16743.129.camel@nigel-laptop>
2009-05-25 22:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26  0:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:27                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27  0:02                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-27 18:26                                 ` [linux-pm] " Len Brown
2009-05-25 22:45                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 22:58                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-25 23:13                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27 14:38                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-26  0:42                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  9:19                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 11:07                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 21:33                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:56                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-05-26 22:24                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-27  0:00                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 23:59                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 21:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 21:29                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:51                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26 23:10                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26  0:42                         ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2009-05-08 23:44                 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-27 19:10                   ` Len Brown
2009-05-27 23:43                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25  9:53                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-26  0:19                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26 22:37                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-27  0:06                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-28 11:50                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 13:27               ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-09 19:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-09 22:22                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-14  9:16                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-16 23:11                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-08 19:44         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 21:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 22:37             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 21:59           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-08 23:05             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-05-08 23:15               ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-09 13:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25  9:27                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 12:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 13:22                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-25 13:26                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-25 21:50                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 21:39                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-25 22:29                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-26  0:28                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  0:35                           ` david
2009-05-26  0:47                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-26  8:43                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-26 10:56                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-05-09 11:12             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-07 22:37   ` trekker.dk
2009-05-08  1:17     ` Shannon McMackin
2009-05-08 21:47       ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-10  5:38       ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 20:10         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-05-10  5:38     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-11 21:19       ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 21:23         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 20:19           ` trekker.dk
2009-05-13 20:24             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:07               ` trekker.dk
2009-05-11 23:23         ` Alex Goebel
2009-05-16 19:07 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-05-17  2:53   ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  3:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-17  3:24       ` Matt Price
2009-05-17  3:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-17  5:02   ` Nigel Cunningham

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