From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3 -mmotm] oom: invoke oom killer for __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:34:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1243928095.23657.5633.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0906020016060.24915@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 00:26 -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > I really think/hope/expect that this is unneeded.
> >
> > Do we know of any callsites which do greater-than-order-0 allocations
> > with GFP_NOFAIL? If so, we should fix them.
> >
> > Then just ban order>0 && GFP_NOFAIL allocations.
> >
>
> That seems like a different topic: banning higher-order __GFP_NOFAIL
> allocations or just deprecating __GFP_NOFAIL altogether and slowly
> switching users over is a worthwhile effort, but is unrelated.
>
> This patch is necessary because we explicitly deny the oom killer from
> being used when the order is greater than PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER because
> of an assumption that it won't help. That assumption isn't always true,
> especially for large memory-hogging tasks that have mlocked large chunks
> of contiguous memory, for example. The only thing we do know is that
> direct reclaim has not made any progress so we're unlikely to get a
> substantial amount of memory freeing in the immediate future. Such an
> instance will simply loop forever without killing that rogue task for a
> __GFP_NOFAIL allocation.
>
> So while it's better in the long-term to deprecate the flag as much as
> possible and perhaps someday remove it from the page allocator entirely,
> we're faced with the current behavior of either looping endlessly or
> freeing memory so the kernel allocation may succeed when direct reclaim
> has failed, which also makes this a rare instance where the oom killer
> will never needlessly kill a task.
I would really prefer if we do as Andrew suggests. Both will fix this
problem, so I don't see it as a different topic at all.
Eradicating __GFP_NOFAIL is a fine goal, but very hard work (people have
been wanting to do that for many years). But simply limiting it to
0-order allocation should be much(?) easier.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-02 7:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-02 1:31 [patch 1/3 -mmotm] oom: move oom_adj value from task_struct to mm_struct David Rientjes
2009-06-02 1:31 ` [patch 2/3 -mmotm] oom: avoid unnecessary mm locking and scanning for OOM_DISABLE David Rientjes
2009-06-02 1:31 ` [patch 3/3 -mmotm] oom: invoke oom killer for __GFP_NOFAIL David Rientjes
2009-06-02 5:56 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-02 6:27 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 6:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-02 7:26 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-02 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-06-02 7:58 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 8:14 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-03 22:10 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-03 22:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-03 22:54 ` Divy Le Ray
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