From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling.
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:03:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244012629.13761.1074.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243981485.3501.92.camel@localhost>
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 15:24 -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > /*
> > * Scheduler clock - returns current time in nanosec units.
> > @@ -38,8 +40,15 @@
> > */
> > unsigned long long __attribute__((weak)) sched_clock(void)
> > {
> > - return (unsigned long long)(jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES)
> > - * (NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ);
> > + unsigned long long time;
> > + struct clocksource *clock;
> > +
> > + rcu_read_lock();
> > + clock = rcu_dereference(sched_clocksource);
> > + time = cyc2ns(clock, clocksource_read(clock));
> > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > +
> > + return time;
> > }
>
> So in the above, cyc2ns could overflow prior to a u64 wrap.
>
>
> cyc2ns does the following:
> (cycles * cs->mult) >> cs->shift;
>
> The (cycles*cs->mult) bit may overflow for large cycle values, and its
> likely that could be fairly quickly, as ideally we have a large shift
> value to keep the precision high so mult will also be large.
>
> I just went through some of the math here with Jon Hunter in this
> thread: http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/15/466
>
> None the less, either sched_clock will have to handle overflows or we'll
> need to do something like the timekeeping code where there's an periodic
> accumulation step that keeps the unaccumulated cycles small.
>
> That said, the x86 sched_clock() uses cycles_2_ns() which is similar
> (but with a smaller scale value). So its likely it would also overflow
> prior to the u64 boundary as well.
>
>
> > diff --git a/kernel/time/jiffies.c b/kernel/time/jiffies.c
> > index c3f6c30..727d881 100644
> > --- a/kernel/time/jiffies.c
> > +++ b/kernel/time/jiffies.c
> > @@ -52,7 +52,7 @@
> >
> > static cycle_t jiffies_read(struct clocksource *cs)
> > {
> > - return (cycle_t) jiffies;
> > + return (cycle_t) (jiffies - INITIAL_JIFFIES);
> > }
>
> Also, on 32bit systems this will may overflow ~monthly. However, this
> isn't different then the existing sched_clock() implementation, so
> either its been already handled and sched_clock is more robust then I
> thought or there's a bug there.
I suspect you just found two bugs.. I thought to remember the jiffies
based sched clock used to use jiffies_64, but I might be mistaken.
As to the x86 sched_clock wrapping before 64bits, how soon would that
be? The scheduler code really assumes it wraps on 64bit and I expect it
to do something mighty odd when it wraps sooner (although I'd have to
audit the code to see exactly what).
Aah, I think the filtering in kernel/sched_clock.c fixes it up. The wrap
will be visible as a large backward motion which will be discarded.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-03 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-02 7:17 [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 7:35 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 7:54 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 8:00 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 11:49 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 20:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03 3:36 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03 14:58 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 20:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03 3:39 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 14:17 ` Rabin Vincent
2009-06-02 14:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 22:24 ` john stultz
2009-06-03 7:03 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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