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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Metzger, Markus T" <markus.t.metzger@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [tip:tracing/core] Revert "x86, bts: reenable ptrace branch trace support"
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:36:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244702183.6691.8.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <928CFBE8E7CB0040959E56B4EA41A77EBBC6544B@irsmsx504.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 07:30 +0100, Metzger, Markus T wrote:
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: tip-bot for Ingo Molnar [mailto:mingo@elte.hu]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:37 AM
> >To: linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
> >Cc: hpa@zytor.com; mingo@redhat.com; peterz@infradead.org; Metzger, Markus T; oleg@redhat.com;
> >tglx@linutronix.de; mingo@elte.hu
> >Subject: [tip:tracing/core] Revert "x86, bts: reenable ptrace branch trace support"
> >
> >Commit-ID:  511b01bdf64ad8a38414096eab283c7784aebfc4
> >Gitweb:     http://git.kernel.org/tip/511b01bdf64ad8a38414096eab283c7784aebfc4
> >Author:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> >AuthorDate: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:32:00 +0200
> >Committer:  Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> >CommitDate: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:32:00 +0200
> >
> >Revert "x86, bts: reenable ptrace branch trace support"
> >
> >This reverts commit 7e0bfad24d85de7cf2202a7b0ce51de11a077b21.
> >
> >A late objection to the ABI has arrived:
> >
> >   http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/10/253
> 
> I thought that this has been resolved. See for example http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/10/257.
> 
> Peters concerns were that Debug Store details are exposed to user space, which is
> not the case. Debug Store itself is fully in-kernel and the expectation of a 
> user-defined buffer can be implemented on top of the Debug Store changes that
> Peter expects are needed to support PEBS.
> 
> A user-defined trace buffer size is required to support different usage models.
> Some users only need a small amount of trace, whereas others need a big amount.
> The interface will have to reflect that in some way.

Right, your last email did explain how we could keep per task in-kernel
buffers and fill them from the DS and still have them of user-specified
size.

That would indeed keep the proposed ABI workable, what I'm still not
liking is that this buffer is in-kernel, but I guess that might be
something for other people to have an opinion on.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-11  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <tip-511b01bdf64ad8a38414096eab283c7784aebfc4@git.kernel.org>
2009-06-11  6:30 ` [tip:tracing/core] Revert "x86, bts: reenable ptrace branch trace support" Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-11  6:36   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-06-11  7:17     ` Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-11  8:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-11  8:30         ` Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-11 10:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 10:39       ` Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-11 21:41         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 11:04           ` Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-18 10:23             ` Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-24 13:10               ` Metzger, Markus T
     [not found]                 ` <20090624133645.GE6224@elte.hu>
     [not found]                   ` <928CFBE8E7CB0040959E56B4EA41A77EBE2DB9B9@irsmsx504.ger.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20090624153229.GA24346@elte.hu>
     [not found]                       ` <928CFBE8E7CB0040959E56B4EA41A77EBE2DC3D9@irsmsx504.ger.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                         ` <20090626122948.GC10850@elte.hu>
     [not found]                           ` <928CFBE8E7CB0040959E56B4EA41A77EBE519869@irsmsx504.ger.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                             ` <20090629202002.GF31577@elte.hu>
2009-06-30  7:32                               ` bts & perf_counters Metzger, Markus T
2009-06-30 19:32                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-06 15:34                                 ` Peter Zijlstra

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