From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Zhaolei <zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] softirq: fix ksoftirq starved
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:22:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1245313355.13761.23103.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A39B25C.2040801@cn.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:19 +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> >> --- a/kernel/sched.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/sched.c
> >> @@ -5307,6 +5307,7 @@ need_resched:
> >> release_kernel_lock(prev);
> >> need_resched_nonpreemptible:
> >>
> >> + schedule_softirq_check();
> >> schedule_debug(prev);
> >
> > hm, this slows down the scheduler fast-path ...
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
>
> It's true. But:
>
> The overheads are:
>
> Overhead-A: the function call statement "schedule_softirq_check();"
> It can be gotten rid off by a macro or inline function.
>
> Overhead-B: __get_cpu_var() and the test statement.
>
> Overhead-C: do_softirq()
> In my patch, we test a variable and then call do_softirq() when
> the variable is true. do_softirq() can be called from process
> context or from schedule() or by any other ways, but it must be
> called and avoids starvation in this condition.
> So we need pay this overhead. It is no worse than before.
>
> Is it a critical thing when it slows down the scheduler fast-path
> because of the "Overhead-B"?
>
> Or I misunderstand something?
I think its overhead-c, actually calling do_softirq from the schedule()
path that a really whacky idea.
Why not make whoemever needs the softirq to happen (eg. network ops)
poll this flag, so that regular RT processes don't get penalized by
random softirq muck?
It seems to me this approach basically gives softirqs higher prio than
RT processes, not something to be done lightly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-18 8:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-05 6:41 [PATCH v3] ftrace: add a tracepoint for __raise_softirq_irqoff() Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-05 6:53 ` Li Zefan
2009-05-07 0:57 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-05 16:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-11 7:28 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-11 13:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-11 14:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-11 14:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-11 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-11 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-12 9:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-12 13:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-14 10:53 ` [PATCH v4] " Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-14 12:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-14 13:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-14 13:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-15 1:53 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-18 3:06 ` Zhaolei
2009-05-19 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-21 5:39 ` Zhaolei
2009-06-12 2:36 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-12 9:51 ` [PATCH RFC] softirq: fix ksoftirq starved Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-17 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-18 3:19 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-18 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-06-20 15:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03 9:35 ` [PATCH v4] ftrace: add a tracepoint for __raise_softirq_irqoff() Lai Jiangshan
2009-07-03 9:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-09 12:58 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-14 2:44 ` [PATCH v3] " Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-14 3:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-14 6:06 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-14 8:05 ` Xiao Guangrong
2009-05-14 12:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-14 13:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-06 13:49 ` Jason Baron
2009-05-07 1:16 ` Xiao Guangrong
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