From: Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/pci: don't use crs for root if we only have one root bus
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:58:26 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1245914906.3116.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090625070347.GB2676@elte.hu>
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 09:03 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> wrote:
>
> > > [ There's a difference between "we're supposed to find and fix bugs
> > > in the -rc series", and "I release known-buggy -rc1's since we're
> > > supposed to fix it later". For similar reasons, I hate pulling
> > > known-buggy stuff during the merge window - it's ok if it shows
> > > itself to be buggy _later_, but if people send me stuff that they
> > > know is buggy as they send it to me, then that's a problem. ]
> >
> > Yeah, 100% agreed. I didn't hear any reports until after people
> > started using your tree, so I think this case was handled
> > correctly: push something that *seems* ok upstream, but with eyes
> > wide open for the possibility we'd need to revert.
>
> There's only one small gripe i have with the handling of it: the
> timing. "9e9f46c: PCI: use ACPI _CRS data by default" was written
> and committed on June 11th, two days _after_ the merge window
> opened.
>
> That's way too late for maybe-broken changes to x86 lowlevel details
> (especially if it touches hw-environmental interaction - which is
> very hard to test with meaningful coverage), and it's also pretty
> much the worst moment to solicit testing from people who are busy
> getting their stuff to Linus and who are busy testing out any of the
> unexpected interactions and bugs.
>
> So this was, to a certain degree, a predictable outcome. Trees in
> the Linux "critical path" of testing (core kernel, x86, core
> networking, very common drivers, PCI, driver core, VFS, etc.) should
> generally try to cool down 1-2 weeks before the merge window -
> because breakage there can do a lot of knock-on cascading damage.
> Two weeks is not a lot of time and the effects of showstopper bugs
> get magnified disproportionately.
>
Yes, I was also thinking about this when I checked the commit date. And
totally agree with Ingo's suggestions.
Thanks,
--
JSR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-25 7:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20090624122433.GA24781@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20090624145119.GA12664@elte.hu>
2009-06-24 21:46 ` [PATCH] x86: fix _CRS resources return handling Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 21:48 ` [PATCH] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan child -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 22:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 0:03 ` Yinghai
2009-06-24 22:58 ` [PATCH] x86/pci: don't use crs for root if we only have one root bus Yinghai Lu
2009-06-24 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 23:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 23:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-24 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 0:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 7:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 7:28 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput [this message]
2009-06-25 16:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-25 0:00 ` Gary Hade
2009-06-25 2:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/pci: fix boundary checking when using root CRS Yinghai Lu
2009-06-25 2:02 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan childs -v3 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-25 3:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/pci: get root CRS before scan childs -v4 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-30 1:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/pci: fix boundary checking when using root CRS Jesse Barnes
2009-06-30 18:04 ` Gary Hade
2009-06-30 21:00 ` Jesse Barnes
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