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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp
Cc: andi@firstfloor.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	acme@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:52:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1247230336.7529.34.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090710.214547.34380852.mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>

On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 21:45 +0900, mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:54:51 +0200
> 
> Thank you for your replying, Peter and Andi.
> 
> > > Maybe re-use the LOCK_CONTENDED macros for this, but I'm not sure we
> > > want to go there and put code like this on the lock hot-paths for !debug
> > > kernels.
> > 
> > My concern was similar.
> > 
> > I suspect it would be in theory ok for the slow spinning path, but I am 
> > somewhat concerned about the additional cache miss for checking
> > the global flag even in this case. This could hurt when
> > the kernel is running fully cache hold, in that the cache miss
> > might be far more expensive that  short spin.
> 
> Yes, there will be overhead. This is certain.
> But there's the radical way to ignore this,
> adding subcategory to Kconfig for measuring spinlocks and #ifdef to spinlock.c.
> So people who wants to avoid this overhead can disable measurement of spinlocks completely.
> 
> And there's another way to avoid the overhead of measurement.
> Making _spin_lock variable of function pointer.
> When you don't want to measure spinlocks,
> assign _spin_lock_raw() which is equals to current _spin_lock().
> When you want to measure spinlocks,
> assign _spin_lock_perf() which locks and measures.
> This way will banish the cache miss problem you said.
> I think this may be useful for avoiding problem of recursion.

We already have that, its called CONFIG_LOCKDEP && CONFIG_EVENT_TRACING
&& CONFIG_EVENT_PROFILE, with those enabled you get tracepoints on every
lock acquire and lock release, and perf can already use those as event
sources.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-10 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-01  6:21 [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01  7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01  8:21   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 13:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-01 13:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 14:17       ` mitake
2009-07-01  7:38 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01  8:42   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01  9:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01  9:42       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 11:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 12:53           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 15:44             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-06  5:20               ` mitake
2009-07-06  8:51                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-06 11:54                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-10 12:45                     ` mitake
2009-07-10 12:52                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-07-10 13:43                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 13:46                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-10 13:50                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 13:56                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-12  7:23                         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-12 13:24                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-13  6:06                             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-13  8:51                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-14  0:48                                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-18 13:25                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 12:40       ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 13:50       ` [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat II Andi Kleen
2009-07-01  9:48     ` [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat Andi Kleen

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