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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>
Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][patch 00/12] clocksource / timekeeping rework V2
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:16:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1248974187.3331.6.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1248961750.6046.35.camel@desktop>

On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:49 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:04 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:49:33 -0700
> > Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 12:53 +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure allowing that type of override a good idea tho .. I don't
> > > > > think it's considered a usable clock when the rating goes to zero.
> > > > 
> > > > Override as the root user -> your foot, no? The whole override stuff is
> > > > there for the case that the clocksource selection picked a broken clock
> > > > and you want to force the system into a semi-working state. Ideally the
> > > > whole override would go away, but that is probably wishful thinking..
> > > 
> > > I would agree if the system doesn't crash as a result, if it just starts
> > > to operate funny then that's maybe acceptable. If you keep the change
> > > rating function, you could potentially remove the unregister path..
> > 
> > Why shouldn't it be possible to have a clocksource as a module? I think
> > that the unregister path should stay. To really make it work we'd need
> > a function to force the system out of the one-shot mode though.
> 
> Because I don't think there is a sane reason to allow it. It should be
> more like if someone has a need for it, then let them add back the
> unregister path and explain why they need it.

Clocksources as modules was one of the initial design goals I had way
back. The benefit being that an older distro kernel could be made to
support newer stranger hardware via a clocksource driver. While the
hardware vendors have for the most part consolidated on HPET/ACPI PM
which has mostly avoided the need, I still think its worth preserving.

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-30 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200907291717.n6THHG6f001426@d06av06.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>
2009-07-30 10:53 ` [RFC][patch 00/12] clocksource / timekeeping rework V2 Martin Schwidefsky
2009-07-30 12:49   ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-30 13:04     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-07-30 13:49       ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-30 17:16         ` john stultz [this message]
2009-07-30 18:08           ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-30 20:37             ` Andreas Mohr
2009-07-30 20:56             ` john stultz
2009-07-31  5:33               ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-31  8:34                 ` john stultz
2009-07-31 16:44                   ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-30 17:12   ` john stultz
     [not found] <200907301349.n6UDnCpx008890@d06av06.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>
2009-07-30 15:42 ` Martin Schwidefsky
     [not found] <200907291702.n6TH2LEt017305@d06av05.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>
2009-07-29 17:09 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-07-29 17:17   ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-29 17:34   ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-30  7:42     ` Martin Schwidefsky
     [not found] <200907291510.n6TFAV8k000647@d06av06.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>
2009-07-29 16:50 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-07-29 17:02   ` Daniel Walker
2009-07-29 13:41 Martin Schwidefsky
2009-07-29 15:10 ` Daniel Walker

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