From: Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
earl_chew@agilent.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:28:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249151332.6731.5.camel@wing-commander> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090801134146.GA19910@localhost.localdomain>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1490 bytes --]
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 09:41 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > Not without additional work. If init crashed in the initramfs, I don't think
> > > theres a way to handle that. If it crashes at some later time, I think it just
> > > gets restarted IIRC. I'm sure you can change that behavior, but this patch
> > > doesn't address that.
> > >
> > When the system init daemon crashes, the kernel PANICs. When not using
> > core_pattern, this is ok, we get a core file - when using apport, as far
> > as I can tell it never waits for apport to finish so we don't get the
> > crash.
> >
> This is non-sensical. If init crashes, and the kernel panics, you'll only get a
> core by sheer luck and good fortune.
>
Or by being a bit clever. Upstart catches the SIGSEGV and the signal
handler forks a child process, unmasking the signal in that child
process with no signal handler installed.
So it's really a child of init that core dumps, just ignore the signal
handler off the top of the stack trace and it's just as good as a core
dump from the init daemon itself.
Meanwhile the real init daemon (pid 1) wait()s on its child, and then
once it's reaped it exits itself - and then the kernel PANICs.
This works just fine with ordinary core files, because the kernel does
at least write out the core file beforehand. With apport we don't get
this wait, thus I was hoping your patch would have that effect.
Scott
--
Scott James Remnant
scott@ubuntu.com
[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-01 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-22 17:28 [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Neil Horman
2009-06-25 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 1:49 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 10:48 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:20 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 17:30 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:18 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 22:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-29 9:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 18:00 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:24 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:14 ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] do_coredump: factor out put_cred() calls Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-26 20:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] do_coredump: move !ispipe code into "else" branch Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:18 ` Q: do_coredump() && d_unhashed() Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:17 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: wait for core collectors Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:20 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-29 0:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v3) Neil Horman
2009-06-29 0:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-28 22:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-28 23:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 2:36 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 23:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 10:21 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-30 0:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 0:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v4) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 5:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 10:31 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 14:12 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 14:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 18:19 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 8:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 10:29 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 11:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 14:44 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 15:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 17:53 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 22:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-03 10:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:14 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:15 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:19 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 16:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 15:49 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-08-07 17:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-07-20 16:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-29 15:13 ` [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Scott James Remnant
2009-07-29 20:18 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31 20:20 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-01 13:41 ` Neil Horman
2009-08-01 18:28 ` Scott James Remnant [this message]
2009-08-02 0:22 ` Neil Horman
2009-08-02 13:49 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02 23:50 ` Neil Horman
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1249151332.6731.5.camel@wing-commander \
--to=scott@ubuntu.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=earl_chew@agilent.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=nhorman@tuxdriver.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox