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From: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/5] tracing/filters: Provide basic regex support
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:14:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249618497.30024.36.camel@tropicana> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090806014941.GA24609@nowhere>

Hi Frederic,

On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 03:49 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:14:27AM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> > Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:39:58PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> > >> Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > >>> This patch provides basic support for regular expressions in filters.
> > >>> The common filter file doesn't support any regex but a new
> > >>> filter_regex file is created for each subsystem/event.
> > >>>
> > >>> It supports the following types of regexp:
> > >>>
> > >>> - *match_beginning
> > >>> - *match_middle*
> > >>> - match_end*
> > >>> - !don't match
> > >>>
> > >> I don't see why adding "filter_regex" is necessary, why not just make
> > >> "filter" support regex?
> > > 
> > > I did that because I feared about people beeing unable to filter using
> > > * as a real character inside a filter string.
> > > If we are using only one file, we are forced to get the '*' interpreted.
> > > That would also break the ABI.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think we don't maintain stable ABI for debugfs and we've been changing
> > the "ABI" in debugfs/tracing/, but of course we shouldn't change it
> > without good reasons.
> 
> 
> Yeah. May be I'm too much careful there but i prefer not to take the risk.
> 
>  
> > One alternative is to use '"' to prevent '*' to be translated, but seems
> > using "filter_regex" is more convenient, so I agree with this patch.
> 
> 
> The problem is that most of the time, the '"' is about mandatory to delimit
> a string.
> Say you want to filter the lock name &REISERFS_SB(sb)->lock, you can't do that
> by just typing:
> 
> echo name == &REISERFS_SB(sb)->lock > events/lockdep/filter
> 
> because the '&' character is considered as an operator and that will trigger
> an error.
> Instead you must type:
> 
> echo 'name == "&REISERFS_SB(sb)->lock"' > events/lockdep/filter
> 
> The '' are there to delimit the string for echo, and the "" are interpreted
> by the filter api which take it as a whole string and not strings interleaved
> with operators. I even fear - and > may be considered as operators if we omit
> the "".
> 
> I also thought about using an antislash for those who don't want the * to
> be interpreted. But although it seems intuitive, it's not as much as two
> distinct and visible files.
> 
> Also, we can think about the fact the regexp support could be extended one
> day if someone needs to. And we could then encounter even more ambiguous
> characters such as $, ^, [, {, etc...
> 

This a nice new feature - I considered doing it (not complete regexp
support, just * in strings) for the original patch, but ran out of time
- glad you added it.

I still think it makes sense to have some basic support for * in the
regular filter file, so I'd vote for getting rid of the filter_regex
file for now and just adding * support with the antislash escape to the
regular filter file.  If you later wanted to add more full-fledged
regexp support and it didn't make sense to do it in the regular filter
file, then you could go crazy and add the filter_regex later...

Thanks,

Tom 


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-07  4:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-01  7:23 [RFC][GIT PULL] bkl ftrace events + filter regex support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-01  7:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] tracing/bkl: Add bkl ftrace events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-01  7:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] tracing/event: Cleanup the useless dentry variable Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-01  7:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] tracing/filters: Cleanup useless headers Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-03  5:19   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-05 22:30     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-01  7:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] tracing/filters: Provide basic regex support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-03  5:39   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-05 22:47     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-06  1:14       ` Li Zefan
2009-08-06  1:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-07  4:14           ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
2009-08-07  5:19             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-07  8:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-01  7:23 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] tracing/filters: Provide support for char * pointers Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-03  6:58   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-05 23:02     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-06  1:35       ` Li Zefan
2009-08-06  1:59         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-06  3:50           ` Li Zefan

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