From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
RT <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"greg@kroah.com" <greg@kroah.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RT] Lockdep warning on boot with 2.6.31-rc5-rt1.1
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:15:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249661754.32113.747.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0908071154530.3063-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 12:04 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 09:46 -0500, Clark Williams wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > I'm getting this warning from lockdep when booting on my T60.
> > >
> > > The two addresses reported (0xffffffff812664a2 and 0xffffffff812664ae)
> > > actually bracket one call to mutex_lock() in driver_attach() so I'm not
> > > sure what the complaint is.
>
> > Oh, that's tglx who's gone wild with sem->mutex conversions.
>
> Is this code available somewhere?
Its in the -rt tree, but this patch was posted to lkml at:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/26/36
The -rt tree can be found in various places, but while tglx is out
celebrating his holidays the latest can be found through:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/8/5/406
> > It used to be that _all_ dev->sem instances were taken on suspend or
> > something like that, I think that got fixed a long while back.
> >
> > I'd have to look at what the current locking requirements for dev->sem
> > are.
>
> It is supposed to be locked whenever the driver core invokes a probe,
> remove, or PM-related callback. Under some circumstances, the parent's
> semaphore is supposed to be locked as well. Individual subsystems may
> have their own requirements in addition to these.
>
> The ordering requirement is: Don't try to acquire a device's lock if
> you already hold the lock for a non-ancestor device. More generally
> (if more obscurely): If you already hold device A's lock, then don't
> try to acquire the lock for device B unless you already hold the lock
> for A & B's most recent common ancestor.
>
> > I remember talking to Alan on several occasions about this, and I just
> > went over some of the old emails, but I must say the precise
> > requirements stay hidden from me. Also, I'm not sure these emails are
> > still representative of the current state.
>
> I think they are, pretty much. The real problem, of course, is that
> lockdep doesn't understand tree-structured lock orderings. Hence it
> isn't practical to convert dev->sem into a mutex.
Right, well it would if we'd make every instance a class, but since
classes should reside in static storage this is far from trivial.
If we'd be able to find a mapping such that we can use a limited number
of these classes to represent the needed structure then we're good.
I think I proposed adding a class to each driver or something, but then
you countered that a single driver could register itself at conflicting
places in the device tree.
Still it might be worth to try that and see where we'll end up and
possibly fix up a few drivers to be more intelligent.
/me ponders
Nested busses would be interesting though, suppose we assign a class to
a USB bus driver, and we chain USB hubs, you'd get a nesting of similar
classes and that'd upset lockdep again :/
The other proposal was creating a fixed list of classes and register
each device at a class corresponding to its depth in the tree. I can't
remember what was wrong with that, but I seem to have been persuaded
that that was hard too.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-07 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-07 14:46 [RT] Lockdep warning on boot with 2.6.31-rc5-rt1.1 Clark Williams
2009-08-07 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-07 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-07 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-08-07 16:45 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-07 16:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-07 21:30 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-08 9:06 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-08 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-08 3:20 ` Dave Young
2009-08-08 8:33 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-08 12:00 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-08 14:07 ` Dave Young
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