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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Johannes Stezenbach" <js@sig21.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] cache-miss and cache-refs events on P6-mobile CPUs
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:21:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249989717.17467.159.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090811110627.GA31136@elte.hu>

On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 13:06 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 11:34 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > > @@ -116,8 +116,8 @@ static const u64 p6_perfmon_event_map[] 
> > >  {
> > >    [PERF_COUNT_HW_CPU_CYCLES]		= 0x0079,
> > >    [PERF_COUNT_HW_INSTRUCTIONS]		= 0x00c0,
> > > -  [PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_REFERENCES]	= 0x0000,
> > > -  [PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_MISSES]		= 0x0000,
> > > +  [PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_REFERENCES]	= 0x0f2e,
> > > +  [PERF_COUNT_HW_CACHE_MISSES]		= 0x012e,
> > 
> > 2e is total numer of L2 events,
> > 
> > 0f is all mesi states
> > 01 is invalid states
> 
> here's Intel's own description:
> 
>  I_STATE 0x01 Counts how many times requests miss the cache.
>  MESI    0x0F Counts how many times cache lines in any state are accessed.
> 
> so it's pretty close in practice. The only counts that are a bit 
> inapplicable are fetches/prefetches it initiates on its own (they 
> are included here) - but those too are related to the workload in 
> general, so it's good as an approximation.
> 
> It's definitely better than 0x00 IMO. What do you think?

Well, if they say so. I was thinking that counting I states would count
invalidates due to remote S->{E,M} transitions and invpg ins' and such. 

And hitting an invalidated line is a whole different thing than plain
missing it due to it not being present.

Anyway, if this is the Intel recommended thing for cache misses, who am
I to argue.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-11 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-07 17:09 2.6.31-rc5 regression: x86 MCE malfunction on Thinkpad T42p Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-09 10:03 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-09 10:34   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-08-09 16:47     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-10 10:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 12:27   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-10 12:32     ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 12:56       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-10 13:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-10 19:26           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-10 19:44             ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 20:05               ` Robert Richter
2009-08-10 20:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-10 20:37               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-10 21:31                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-10 22:13                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-11  9:34                     ` [patch] cache-miss and cache-refs events on P6-mobile CPUs Ingo Molnar
2009-08-11  9:39                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-11 11:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-11 11:21                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-08-11 15:50                       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-11 16:56                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-11 15:40                     ` 2.6.31-rc5 regression: x86 MCE malfunction on Thinkpad T42p Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-17 14:49                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-12 11:59   ` *PING* [PATCH]: x86: mce: fix mce warning with disabled lapic Ingo Molnar

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