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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Gautham Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arun R Bharadwaj <arun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/15] sched: Add parameter sched_mn_power_savings to control MN domain sched policy
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:45:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1251128714.7538.308.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090824153229.GL6474@dirshya.in.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 21:02 +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2009-08-24 16:56:18]:
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:39 +0200, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>
> > > ---
> > 
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_MN
> > > +	if (!err && mc_capable())
> > > +		err = sysfs_create_file(&cls->kset.kobj,
> > > +					&attr_sched_mn_power_savings.attr);
> > > +#endif
> > 
> > *sigh* another crappy sysfs file
> > 
> > Guys, can't we come up with anything better than sched_*_power_saving=n?
> > 
> > This configuration space is _way_ too large, and now it gets even
> > crazier.
> 
> Hi Peter and Andreas,
> 
> Actually we had sched_power_savings and related simplifications, but
> that did not really simplify the interface.

Well, I prefer a single sched_power knob that either goes on or off.

A user really isn't interested in exploring a 3^3 configuration space
{PERF, POWER, POWER-WAKE-BALANCE} x {SMT, MC, MN} in order to find what
works best.

> As for this mulit-node MN stuff, Gautham had posted a better solution
> to propagate the sched_mc flags without need for new sysfs file and
> related changes.
> 
> Please take a look at: http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/3/31/137 and
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/3/31/142 which actually degenerates the
> domain.

Ah, right, that got lost in my inbox :/ Let me go read those too.

> However Andreas's requirement seem to indicate multiple nodes within
> a single socket.  I did not yet completely understand that topology.
> Some for of smart degeneration may save an additional tunable here.

Yes, apparently AMD is going to put multiple nodes in a single socket,
not sure how they do that, Andreas do these chips have multiple memory
busses?

I was thinking chips were pin constrained and wouldn't add a whole
second memory interface to the package, but what do I know...



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-24 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 13:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/15] sched: Fix scheduling for multi-node processors Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/15] x86, sched: Add config option for multi-node CPU scheduling Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-21 13:50   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-08-24  8:49     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:34 ` [PATCH 2/15] sched, x86: Provide initializer for MN scheduling domain, define MN level Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:34 ` [PATCH 3/15] sched: Add cpumask to be used when building MN domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:35 ` [PATCH 4/15] sched: Define per CPU variables and cpu_to_group function for " Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:36 ` [PATCH 5/15] sched: Add function to build MN sched domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:37 ` [PATCH 6/15] sched: Add support for MN domain in build_sched_groups Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 7/15] sched: Activate build of MN domains Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:39 ` [PATCH 8/15] sched: Add parameter sched_mn_power_savings to control MN domain sched policy Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 14:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 15:32     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-08-24 15:45       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-08-25  7:52         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  7:50       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  6:24     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  6:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:38         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-26  9:30   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-27 12:47     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:40 ` [PATCH 9/15] sched: Check sched_mn_power_savings when setting flags for CPU and MN domains Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 14:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:34     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-26 10:01   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-08-20 13:41 ` [PATCH 10/15] sched: Check for sched_mn_power_savings when doing load balancing Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 15:40     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2009-08-25  8:00       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:41 ` [PATCH 11/15] sched: Pass unlimited __cpu_power information to upper domain level groups Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 16:44     ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-24 17:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 18:19         ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-25  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:04             ` Balbir Singh
2009-08-25  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:51     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:42 ` [PATCH 12/15] sched: Allow NODE domain to be parent of MC instead of CPU domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  8:55     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:43 ` [PATCH 13/15] sched: Detect child domain of NUMA (aka NODE) domain Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:13     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 14/15] sched: Conditionally limit __cpu_power when child sched domain has type NODE Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25  9:19     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-20 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86: Fix cpu_coregroup_mask to return correct cpumask on multi-node processors Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-24 15:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24 18:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:13       ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25 10:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-27 13:18           ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  9:31     ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25  9:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25 10:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:24         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-25 10:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-25 10:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-27 15:42             ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-27 15:25         ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-28 10:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-28 12:03             ` Andreas Herrmann
2009-08-28 12:50               ` Peter Zijlstra

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