From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755528AbZHYR4i (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:56:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755510AbZHYR4h (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:56:37 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:60806 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1755492AbZHYR4g (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:56:36 -0400 X-Authenticated: #14349625 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18OJiYpw5YOps2VkOlmmWyDOafcZLHNMY5RqKZTqv /81UavQnr+bXiX Subject: Re: RFC: THE OFFLINE SCHEDULER From: Mike Galbraith To: Christoph Lameter Cc: raz ben yehuda , riel@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, peterz@infradead.org, andrew motron , wiseman@macs.biu.ac.il, lkml , linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1250983671.5688.21.camel@raz> <1251004897.7043.70.camel@marge.simson.net> <1251018551.3810.35.camel@raz> <1251012621.14003.71.camel@marge.simson.net> <1251025557.3810.65.camel@raz> <1251021133.14003.172.camel@marge.simson.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:56:33 +0200 Message-Id: <1251222993.7023.53.camel@marge.simson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 11:23 -0400, Christoph Lameter wrote: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > The rest, I'll leave off replying to, we're kinda splitting hairs. I > > don't see a big generic benefit to OFFSCHED or ilk, others do. > > No we are not splitting hairs. OFFSCHED takes the OS noise (interrupts, > timers, RCU, cacheline stealing etc etc) out of certain processors. You > cannot run an undisturbed piece of software on the OS right now. I asked the questions I did out of pure curiosity, and that curiosity has been satisfied. It's not that I find it useless or whatnot (or that my opinion matters to anyone but me;). I personally find the concept of injecting an RTOS into a general purpose OS with no isolation to be alien. Intriguing, but very very alien. -Mike