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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	general@lists.openfabrics.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] Re: [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:43:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1253198593.14935.20.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adafxalejiq.fsf@cisco.com>

On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 07:24 -0700, Roland Dreier wrote:
> > Anton Blanchard suggested a while back that this might be integrated
>  > with perf-counters, since perf-counters already does mmap() tracking and
>  > also provides events through an mmap()'ed buffer.
>  > 
>  > Has anybody looked into this?
> 
> I didn't see the original suggestion.  Certainly hooking in to existing
> infrastructure for user/kernel communication would be good.
> 
> The fit doesn't seem great to me, although I am rather naive about perf
> counters.  The problem that ummunotify is trying to solve is to let an
> app say 'for these 1000 address ranges (that possibly only cover a small
> part of my total address space), please let me know when the mappings
> are invalidated for any reason'.
> 
> So getting those events in the kernel is no problem -- we have the MMU
> notifier hooks that tell us exactly what we need to know.  The issue is
> purely the way userspace registers interest in address ranges, and how
> to kernel returns the events.
> 
> For perf counters it seems that one would have to create a new counter
> for each address range... is that correct?  And also I don't know if
> perf counter has an analog for the fast path optimization that
> ummunotify provides via a mmap'ed generation counter (a quick way for
> userspace to see 'nothing happened since last time you checked').

You're right in that perf-counter currently doesn't provide a way to
specify these ranges, we simply track all mmap() traffic.

The thing is that mmap() data is basically a side channel. For your
usage you'd basically have to open a NOP counter and only observe the
mmap data.

We could look at ways of adding ranges..

We do have a means of detecting if new data is available, we keep a data
head index. If that moves, you've got new stuff.




      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-17 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11  4:38 [GIT PULL] please pull ummunotify Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  5:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:03   ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:11     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11 16:42       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-11  6:15     ` Brice Goglin
2009-09-11  6:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-11  6:22       ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-11  6:40         ` [ofa-general] " Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-11 16:58           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15  7:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-09-15  8:27               ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-15 12:38               ` Jeff Squyres
2009-09-15 11:34 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-15 14:57   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-28 20:49     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-28 21:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-09-16 16:30 ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-16 16:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:24   ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:32     ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 14:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:03         ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-17 15:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 15:45           ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-18 11:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-29 17:13             ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-30  9:44               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 16:02                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 18:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 19:30                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-12 20:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  4:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  6:40                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 16:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2009-10-13  5:43                         ` Brice Goglin
2009-10-13  6:38                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-30 17:06                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 16:32                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-02 20:45                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 22:34                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-10-12 17:33                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 14:43     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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