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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Yasunori Goto <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Miao Xie <miaox@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [BUG] cpu controller can't provide fair CPU time for each group
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:20:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1257924007.23203.18.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091111134910.5F42.E1E9C6FF@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 15:21 +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote:

> When users use cpuset/cpu affinity, then they would like to controll cpu affinity.
> Not CPU time.

What are people using affinity for? The only use of affinity is to
restrict or disable the load-balancer. Don't complain the load-balancer
doesn't work when you're taking active steps to hinder its work.

If you don't want things load-balanced, turn it off, if you want the
load-balancer to work on smaller groups of cpus, use cpusets.

Anyway, I said there needs to be done something because the interaction
between cpusets and the cpu-controller is utter crap, they never should
have been separated like they are.

> To be honest, I don't have any good idea because I'm not familiar with
> schduler's code. But I have one question.
> 
> 
> 1618 static int tg_shares_up(struct task_group *tg, void *data)
> 1619 {
> 1620         unsigned long weight, rq_weight = 0, shares = 0;
> 
> (snip)
> 
> 1632         for_each_cpu(i, sched_domain_span(sd)) {
> 1633                 weight = tg->cfs_rq[i]->load.weight;
> 1634                 usd->rq_weight[i] = weight;
> 1635 
> 1636                 /*
> 1637                  * If there are currently no tasks on the cpu pretend there
> 1638                  * is one of average load so that when a new task gets to
> 1639                  * run here it will not get delayed by group starvation.
> 1640                  */
> 1641                 if (!weight)
> 1642                         weight = NICE_0_LOAD; ---------(*)
> 
> I heard from test team when (*) was removed, 1) didn't occur.
> 
> The comment said (*) is to avoid starvation condition.
> However, I don't understand why NICE_0_LOAD must be specified.
> Could you tell me why small value (like 2 or 3) is not used for (*)?
> What is side effect? 

Exactly what the comment says, it will get delayed because the group
won't get scheduled on that cpu until all the group weights get
re-adjusted again, which can be much longer than the typical runtimes of
the workload in question.

Regular weights are NICE_0_LOAD, if you stick a 3 next to that I'll not
get ran much -> starvation.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-11  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-03  2:26 [BUG] cpu controller can't provide fair CPU time for each group Miao Xie
2009-11-05  2:56 ` Miao Xie
2009-11-10  0:22   ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-10  9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-11  6:21   ` Yasunori Goto
2009-11-11  7:20     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-11-11  9:59       ` Yasunori Goto
2009-11-11 20:39       ` Chris Friesen
2009-11-11 20:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-11 10:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-12  1:12       ` Yasunori Goto
2009-11-19  7:09         ` Yasunori Goto
2009-12-09  9:55       ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: cgroup: Implement different treatment for idle shares tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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