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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:17:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1260785859.4165.136.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091214015347.GB7710@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:53 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 07:56:17PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 21:34 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > 
> > > Ah -- I have a related lockdep question.  Is there a primitive that says
> > > whether or not the current task holds at least one lock of any type?
> > > If so, I would like to make rcu_dereference() do at least a little crude
> > > checking for this problem.
> > 
> > Hmm, no, but that's not hard to do, however I actually implemented
> > something like that for RCU a long while ago and that gives a metric TON
> > of false positives due to things like the radix tree which are RCU-safe
> > but are not required to be used with RCU.
> 
> Understood -- my current guess is that there needs to be a way to tag
> a variant of the rcu_dereference() API with the conditions that must be
> met, for example, either in an rcu-sched read-side critical section or
> holding a specific type of lock.
> 
> This does make it a little harder to retroactively add checking to
> existing calls to rcu_dereference(), but should allow a good balance
> between false positives and false negatives going forward.
> 
> Seem reasonable, or am I still missing something?

The only concern is drowning in rcu_dereference() annotations. But I
guess that is unavoidable.

I think you can use lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map), except you need to deal
with the !debug_locks case, because lockdep stops once debug_locks
becomes false, which means lock_is_held() will return rubbish.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-14 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-10  0:52 [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  0:52 ` [patch 1/9] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred() access Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  1:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10  2:29     ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-12-10  2:43   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10 14:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:44       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:45         ` David Howells
2009-12-11 13:52           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 14:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:38     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 15:08     ` [patch 1/9] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred()access Tetsuo Handa
2009-12-10 21:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11  3:25         ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-08 12:30         ` [PATCH] Update comment on find_task_by_pid_ns Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-08 13:21           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-02-08 17:07             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-02-08 17:16               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-02-08 21:42                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-09 22:08                   ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-10 16:30                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-10 17:57                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-10 18:39                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-02-10 20:18                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-10 20:30                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-11  1:21                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-11 12:04     ` [PATCH] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for sys_getpriority Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-12 14:22       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-12-10 22:09   ` [tip:core/urgent] sys: Fix missing rcu protection for __task_cred() access tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:41   ` [patch 1/9] " David Howells
2009-12-10  0:52 ` [patch 2/9] fs: Add missing rcu protection for __task_cred() in sys_ioprio_get Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:46   ` David Howells
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 3/9] proc: Add missing rcu protection for __task_cred() in task_sig() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:46   ` David Howells
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 4/9] oom: Add missing rcu protection of __task_cred() in dump_tasks Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  1:57   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-11 13:49   ` David Howells
2009-12-11 13:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 5/9] security: Use get_task_cred() in keyctl_session_to_parent() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  2:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 13:52   ` David Howells
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 6/9] signal: Fix racy access to __task_cred in kill_pid_info_as_uid() Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 15:11   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 22:09   ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:53   ` [patch 6/9] " David Howells
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 7/9] signals: Fix more rcu assumptions Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 14:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-12-10 14:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 13:59       ` David Howells
2009-12-10 22:09   ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 8/9] Documentation: Fix invalid " Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-10 23:55   ` Vegard Nossum
2009-12-11 14:00   ` David Howells
2009-12-11 16:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-11 16:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 18:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 21:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-12-11 22:01     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10  0:53 ` [patch 9/9] security: Fix invalid rcu assumptions in comments Thomas Gleixner
2009-12-11 14:01   ` David Howells
2009-12-10  2:28 ` [patch 0/9] Fix various __task_cred related invalid RCU assumptions Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-10  3:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-10  5:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-10  5:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-13 18:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-14  1:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-14 10:17             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-12-14 14:16               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-14 14:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-15  1:23                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-11 13:39 ` David Howells
2009-12-11 16:35   ` Paul E. McKenney

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