From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: "Petr Titěra" <petr@titera.eu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Wrong atime on recent kernels
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:16:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1261430174.5293.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2EB3BC.6030900@titera.eu>
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 00:31 +0100, Petr Titěra wrote:
> Petr Titěra napsal(a):
> > john stultz napsal(a):
> >> Let me know if you find anything that helps narrow this down.
> >>
> >
> > I know its far fetched, but is there something what is preventing
> > xtime.tv_nsec to be exactly 999999999 near the end of update_wall_time
> > in kernel/time/timekeeping.c?
> >
> Just to follow up. I'm asking because I see a lot of files with access
> and/or modify times near the top of thousanth of second (see
> `/etc/sysconfig/prelink' in my example) and I thing that addition of 1
> to xtime.tv_nsec ath the end of update_wall_time can 'owerflow' to whole
> second.
Oof! Yikes.
Yea, the sub-nanosecond rounding fix we added quite awhile back indeed
opens a hole where xtime.tv_nsec could be exactly 1sec. Good eye!
Of course, most of the timekeeping accessors handle this properly by
normalizing the timespec before returning, so its likely just users of
current_kernel_time() and direct accessors of xtime that might be bitten
here.
And this probably was obscured before because the xtime_cache() was
normalized. Did you verify that reverting that patch I pointed you to
resolves the issue? If not, please do, so we can get this fixed up.
Now I'm a little baffled why you see it all the time on your boxes. For
this to trigger, you have to have an interrupt in the last ns of a
second, and then the window for these odd filesystem stamps is only open
for 1-10ms.
Sigh. Once we get the last of the non GENERIC_TIME arches converted to
arch_gettimeoffset, we can kill all of those rounding hacks and just
manage the sub-nanosecond portion sanely. I'm looking forward to that
day!
So again, Bravo on catching this!
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-21 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-14 21:17 Wrong atime on recent kernels Petr Titěra
2009-12-14 21:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-14 21:59 ` Petr Titěra
2009-12-14 21:45 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <4B29494B.4010305@titera.eu>
2009-12-17 1:21 ` john stultz
2009-12-17 3:26 ` john stultz
2009-12-17 11:04 ` Petr Titěra
2009-12-17 21:19 ` john stultz
2009-12-18 3:13 ` john stultz
2009-12-20 22:29 ` Petr Titěra
2009-12-20 23:31 ` Petr Titěra
2009-12-21 21:16 ` john stultz [this message]
2009-12-22 15:50 ` Petr Titěra
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