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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, perfmon2-devel@lists.sf.net,
	eranian@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH]  perf_events: improve x86 event scheduling (v5)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:32:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1263825158.4283.590.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100118142004.GD10364@nowhere>

On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 15:20 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 
> 
> Well in appearance, things go through one pass.
> 
> But actually not, there is a first iteration that collects
> the events (walking trhough the group list, filtering soft events),
> a second iteration that check the constraints and schedule (but
> not apply) the events.
> 
> And thereafter we schedule soft events (and revert the whole if
> needed).
> 
> This is a one pass from group_sched_in() POV but at the cost
> of reimplementating what the core does wrt soft events and iterations.
> And not only is it reinventing the wheel, it also produces more
> iterations than we need.
> 
> If we were using the common pmu->enable() from group/event_sched_in(),
> that would build the collection, with only one iteration through the
> group list (instead of one to collect, and one for the software
> events).
> 
> And the constraints can be validated in a second explicit iteration
> through hw_check_constraint(), like it's currently done explicitly
> from hw_perf_group_sched_in() that calls x86_schedule_event().

Thing is, we cannot do that, because we currently require ->enable() to
report schedulability. Now we could add an argument to ->enable, or add
callbacks like I suggested to convey that state.

> The fact is we have with this patch a _lot_ of iterations each
> time x86 get scheduled. This is really a lot for a fast path.
> But considering the dynamic cpu events / task events series
> we can have, I don't see other alternatives.

Luckily it tries to use a previous configuration, so in practise the
schedule phase is real quick amortized O(1) as long as we don't change
the set.

> Do you mean this:
> 
> hw_perf_group_sched_in_begin(&x86_pmu);
> 
> for_each_event(event, group) {
>         event->enable();        //do the collection here
> }
> 
> 
> if (hw_perf_group_sched_in_end(&x86_pmu)) {
>         rollback...
> }
> 
> That requires to know in advance if we have hardware pmu
> in the list though (can be a flag in the group).

Good point, but your proposed hw_check_constraint() call needs to know
the exact same.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-18  8:58 [PATCH] perf_events: improve x86 event scheduling (v5) Stephane Eranian
2010-01-18 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 13:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:12     ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-18 14:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:20     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:32       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-01-18 14:45         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:18             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 16:26               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:51                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 17:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 17:29                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 20:01                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 12:22                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 13:24                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19 15:55                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-19 16:25                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-27 17:38                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-19 15:40                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 10:08           ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:21               ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:38                   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:45             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 11:44               ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 12:02                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 14:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-18 14:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 16:22             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-21 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 10:43   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 10:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-21 14:06       ` Stephane Eranian
2010-01-21 13:55 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: x86: Add support for the ANY bit tip-bot for Stephane Eranian
2010-01-29  9:26 ` [tip:perf/core] perf_events, x86: Improve x86 event scheduling tip-bot for Stephane Eranian

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