From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: test10-pre7
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:03:30 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <12654.972950610@ocs3.ocs-net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:47:59 -0800." <Pine.LNX.4.10.10010301541000.3595-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:47:59 -0800 (PST),
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Keith Owens wrote:
>We should have some REALLY simple and to-the-point rules. Namely:
>
> - object files get linked in the order specified
>
>No ifs, buts, "except when the user doesn't care", or anything like that.
>No extra new logic with fancy new names for FIRST and LAST objects. No,
>that's the wrong thing.
It is the right thing because it self documents which objects really
need a link order and why. The existing mechanism has demonstrably
failed to do this, resulting in fragile and error prone makefiles.
>The two things are entirely orthogonal, as far as I can see. Except
>historically we've mixed them up (OX_OBJS + O_OBJS is the link-list,
>O_OBJS is the symtab information). And this mixup is what the problems
>come from.
True, which is one of the reasons that kbuild 2.5 will remove OX_OBJS,
MX_OBJS and MIX_OBJS. But that change affects all Makefiles, we are
supposed to be in a code freeze. My patch fixes usb and only affects
usb, not the entire kernel.
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-30 19:32 test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 20:34 ` [PATCH] test10-pre7 Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 21:23 ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 22:01 ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:14 ` Alexander Viro
2000-10-30 23:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:06 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-31 10:05 ` John Kennedy
2000-10-30 21:37 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:01 ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 22:06 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:13 ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 22:24 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 22:41 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 22:51 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:02 ` test10-pre7 Jeff Garzik
2000-10-30 23:04 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:08 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:03 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:15 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:32 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-30 23:40 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:45 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-30 23:51 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:57 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31 0:47 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 1:01 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31 2:54 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 1:49 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31 2:07 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31 2:58 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 13:55 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 17:29 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 17:38 ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-10-31 19:51 ` test10-pre7 Horst von Brand
2000-11-01 2:32 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 4:57 ` test10-pre7 Rusty Russell
2000-10-31 6:10 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-30 23:38 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-30 23:47 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 0:03 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2000-10-31 9:37 ` test10-pre7 Russell King
2000-10-31 14:02 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-10-31 14:16 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 17:31 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 19:28 ` test10-pre7 Russell King
2000-10-31 20:59 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-11-01 0:16 ` test10-pre7 (LINK ordering) Randy Dunlap
2000-11-01 0:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-01 3:06 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01 2:35 ` test10-pre7 Keith Owens
2000-11-01 12:46 ` test10-pre7 Alan Cox
2000-10-31 11:59 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 21:01 ` test10-pre7 John Alvord
2000-11-01 3:30 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 8:18 ` test10-pre7 Rogier Wolff
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-10-31 0:52 test10-pre7 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2000-10-31 1:05 ` test10-pre7 Christoph Hellwig
2000-10-31 16:15 test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin
2000-10-31 16:45 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-10-31 18:07 ` test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin
2000-10-31 18:38 ` test10-pre7 Linus Torvalds
2000-10-31 19:16 ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-01 3:15 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01 6:11 ` test10-pre7 H. Peter Anvin
2000-11-01 6:31 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-01 7:42 ` test10-pre7 Peter Samuelson
2000-11-03 16:26 ` test10-pre7 Vladislav Malyshkin
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